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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	larsi@gnus.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: smtp crap
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:25:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83fwizxwy1.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvbotn8rqw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, cyd@stupidchicken.com, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
>         drew.adams@oracle.com, miles@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:42:05 -0400
> 
> There's fundamentally one question with 3 possible answers:
> 
>    How do you want to send email?
>    1- Use the system mailer (old default).
>    2- Use your favorite non-Emacs MUA.
>    3- Configure Emacs so it can send email on its own.
> 
> If there's no /usr/sbin/sendmail, answer 1 is not available.

If (1) is sendmail, then its wording should be modified, because
Windows users will think it refers to their MUA.

Anyway, the question was not about the choices, which are quite clear.
The question was about the UI: how will we ask these questions, in
which sequence, and what wording?  I think getting this right is
crucial for avoiding the n+1st round of arguing about this issue.
Were these aspect finalized yet (I didn't track this thread closely)?



  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-11 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-08  2:02 smtp crap Miles Bader
2011-10-08  4:14 ` Chong Yidong
2011-10-08  6:17   ` Drew Adams
2011-10-08  6:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-08  7:03       ` Drew Adams
2011-10-08 13:47       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-08 14:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-09 14:50           ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2011-10-09 23:58             ` Tim Cross
2011-10-10 11:19               ` Richard Riley
2011-10-08 14:38         ` Drew Adams
2011-10-09  5:53         ` Tim Cross
2011-10-10 21:43         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-10 22:05           ` Drew Adams
2011-10-10 22:08           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-10 22:12             ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11  3:40             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11  5:38               ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11  4:09           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-11  5:05             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11  7:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-11 12:40                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11 13:01                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-11 15:42                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11 17:25                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-10-11 18:51                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11 19:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-11 19:46                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-11 21:32                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11 22:24                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-12  1:12                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-12 13:42                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-12 14:30                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-14 13:51                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-11 20:48                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11 14:53                   ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11 16:00                     ` PJ Weisberg
2011-10-11 16:24                       ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11 21:21                         ` Tim Cross
2011-10-11 22:00                           ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11 22:41                             ` Tim Cross
2011-10-11 22:54                               ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11 22:12                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-11 23:11                             ` Tim Cross
2011-10-12  0:01                               ` Drew Adams
2011-10-12  8:49                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-12 14:04                       ` Jason Rumney
2011-10-12 14:33                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-12  1:30                 ` Chong Yidong
2011-10-12  3:22                   ` Drew Adams
2011-10-12  4:50                   ` Tim Cross
2011-10-12  6:33                   ` joakim
2011-10-12  8:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-12 10:24                       ` joakim
2011-10-12 11:32                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-10-12  9:12                     ` Lennart Borgman
2011-10-12 14:16                       ` Jason Rumney
2011-10-12 14:34                         ` Lennart Borgman
2011-10-12 14:47                           ` Drew Adams
2011-10-12 15:21                             ` Lennart Borgman
2011-10-12 11:29                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-10-12  8:58                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-08  8:17     ` David Engster
2011-10-08  8:52     ` Bastien
2011-10-08 12:36     ` Miles Bader
2011-10-08 14:10     ` Harry Putnam
2011-10-10 21:38     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-10 22:06       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-11  2:09         ` Glenn Morris
2011-10-11  5:10           ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11  3:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-10 22:08       ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11  0:34       ` Miles Bader
2011-10-11  3:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11  4:20           ` Miles Bader
2011-10-11  4:41             ` chad
2011-10-11  5:34               ` Tim Cross
2011-10-11  5:03             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-11  5:38               ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11  5:38             ` Drew Adams
2011-10-11  5:38           ` Drew Adams
2011-10-26 17:58       ` Drew Adams
2011-10-26 18:14         ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-10-26 21:48         ` chad
2011-10-26 22:32           ` Drew Adams
2011-10-26 23:13             ` chad
2011-10-27  0:08               ` Drew Adams
2011-10-27  2:51               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-27  0:23         ` Tim Cross
2011-10-27  1:00           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-09  1:28 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2011-10-09  6:06   ` Miles Bader
2011-10-09 14:55     ` Michael Welsh Duggan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-10-08  2:08 Miles Bader

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