From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs pretest 24.0.90 Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:17:09 +0200 Message-ID: <83fwiywgje.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87litcvtu2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <565EF29AD574471187720A71C5ABD45D@us.oracle.com> <83k48awlp1.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318422029 6973 80.91.229.12 (12 Oct 2011 12:20:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 12:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dani Moncayo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 12 14:20:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RDxnL-00065W-Rf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:20:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41369 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDxnL-00032s-7n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:20:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52861) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDxnI-00032c-BQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:20:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDxnE-0005eg-2a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:20:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:53324) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RDxnD-0005eV-SL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:20:16 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LSY00300CROB600@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:17:08 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.51.78]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LSY002UICSJOLB0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:17:08 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144985 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:28:48 +0200 > From: Dani Moncayo > Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.o= rg >=20 > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:25, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > Did you try the MinGW installer, here: > > > > =A0 http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/Automated%20MinGW= %20Installer/mingw-get-inst/mingw-get-inst-20110802/mingw-get-inst-20= 110802.exe/download > > >=20 > Yes, that is the installer (and the version) I used to install my > current MinGW environment. >=20 > > I never tried it, but perhaps it also does a good job, and will g= ive > > you a working MinGW environment without MSYS. >=20 > But the Emacs build process needs some utilities like "rm", "cp" or > "make" that aren't part of MinGW but MSYS (the are in the > "MinGW\msys\1.0\bin" directory). Are you sure? This page http://sourceforge.net/projects/mingw/files/MinGW/make/ claims that "make" _is_ included. "rm" and "cp" are part of Coreutils, a single package that you need t= o download from GnuWin32 (it may require a few DLLs that are used by Coreutils). > Therefore, what I say is that it would be great if the version of > "make" that comes with MSYS didn't have the problem I (and you) sai= d, > because then, we'd have a easy to use and monolithic environment to > build Emacs on Windows. The MSYS Make cannot not have this problem, because file-name translation is at the core of MSYS operation. Without it, most of MSYS's raison d'etre is gone.