From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs contributions, C and Lisp Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 11:03:30 +0200 Message-ID: <83fvn2uw7x.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87txbn8r6x.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8338j717oe.fsf@gnu.org> <87zjlf6tdx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83sir7yue7.fsf@gnu.org> <8761o3dlak.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83bnxuzyl4.fsf@gnu.org> <871tyqes5q.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87a9ddg7o8.fsf@engster.org> <87d2i9ee8t.fsf@engster.org> <874n3ke1qn.fsf@engster.org> <87vbvzcjv9.fsf@engster.org> <87iorz18fy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87a9db15v8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8761nz0xje.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tym1ll1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83mwhauyfc.fsf@gnu.org> <53119C5F.7030606@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1393664618 31499 80.91.229.3 (1 Mar 2014 09:03:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 09:03:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 01 10:03:45 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WJfpe-00076p-DV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 10:03:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54776 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJfpd-0000RR-P9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 04:03:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34919) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJfpU-0000R7-W9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 04:03:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJfpP-0005cP-4i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 04:03:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:54619) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WJfpO-0005cG-Sp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 04:03:27 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N1R00I001KHAD00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 11:03:45 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N1R00ERG2I9CQ60@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Sat, 01 Mar 2014 11:03:45 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <53119C5F.7030606@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.184 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169980 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 00:37:51 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > On my daytime job, customers started frowning on projects implemented in C++ several years ago. > > Reliable statistics in this area are hard to come by, but for what it's > worth the TIOBE index for February 2014 says: > > 18.334% C > 17.316% Java > 11.341% Objective C > 6.892% C++ > 6.450% C# > 4.219% PHP > 2.759% Visual Basic > 2.157% Python > 1.929% JavaScript > 1.798% Visual Basic .NET > ... > 0.236% Emacs Lisp > ... > > A decade ago, C++'s popularity was in the 15-20% range. The biggest > up-and-comer on the above list is Objective C. Thanks. This basically tells the same story as what I had in my mind. Of course, the statistics also varies according to the application's domain and the target OS (in my case, it's either Windows or GNU/Linux, so Objective C is never required).