From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message, Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 18:43:49 +0300 Message-ID: <83fv8emvgq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20150405124321.362.95112@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <552130FE.1010101@yandex.ru> <83mw2mn2no.fsf@gnu.org> <5521359D.2000509@yandex.ru> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428248701 19676 80.91.229.3 (5 Apr 2015 15:45:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2015 15:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 05 17:44:52 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YemjD-0002FX-Aq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 17:44:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36807 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YemjC-0001LC-Oj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 11:44:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43416) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yemj0-0001L7-3y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 11:44:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yemiv-0005IK-SK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 11:44:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout24.012.net.il ([80.179.55.180]:60848) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Yemiv-0005I2-JB; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 11:44:33 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout24.012.net.il by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NMC00E00B2B6R00@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 18:35:20 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout24.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NMC00DQSBAVC910@mtaout24.012.net.il>; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 18:35:20 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <5521359D.2000509@yandex.ru> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.180 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:184935 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 16:16:13 +0300 > From: Dmitry Gutov > CC: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > On 04/05/2015 04:08 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Any constructive suggestions? > > 1) Forget the "push automatically after commit" nonsense The discussion is waaaay beyond that, so this is no longer relevant. > and double-check each commit one creates before pushing. Agreed (and now mentioned on the Wiki). But again, not very relevant to the issue at hand, which had to do with user confusion more than with anything else. And if we think double-checking each commit before pushing is a must, we should make VC support that seamlessly. After all, all Richard used was VC. > 2) People who don't know how to do that, and are unwilling to learn, or > who aren't confident in their results anyway should post patches to the > mailing list. I disagree. We should let people who want to use a CVS-like workflow do that. It's possible if done correctly. The previous instructions for that were sub-optimal, but I think they are now much more clear, accurate, and concise to allow using that workflow safely. I see no reasons for being this harsh just because some contributors don't yet master Git enough to use it like we think they should. > Had Richard started with that, a lot of time would've been saved, on > many ends. Time spent helping someone is time well spent, at least as long as it's my time.