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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Cc: acm@muc.de, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el	(rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message,
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 10:36:06 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83fv89g3dl.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5525D65C.8090303@yandex.ru>

> Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 04:31:08 +0300
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> On 04/08/2015 09:19 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:
> 
> > If you love complexity for complexity's sake, Git and Emacs will offer
> > you plenty.  The difference is, in Emacs you can learn certain
> > complexity when you find it worth while, and ignore the rest.  In Git
> > you must learn the complexity to do even the simplest things.
> 
> Nonsense, nobody loves complexity. I like power and transparency.

You are responding to the irrelevant part of the issue: the 1st
sentence, which in fact says that Git and Emacs are quite similar for
those who love complexity (they are also similar for those who like
power).

The relevant part of the issue is everything beyond the 1st sentence:
it says that with Git you _must_ learn some of the complexity just to
do the simplest things a project member is required to do.

> You can ignore Emacs's complexity if you're okay with giving up 
> features, but then it becomes inferior in many respects to other, 
> "modern" editors, which arguably offer more features on lower levels of 
> complexity.

It is still a useful text editor.  With Git, unless you know how to
resolve pull/push conflicts, you cannot do the simplest thing.  And
that's the difference; I don't understand how you can deny it.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-09  7:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2015-04-05 12:56   ` [Emacs-diffs] master 4e23cd0 4/5: * mail/rmail.el (rmail-show-message-1): When displaying a mime message, Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-05 13:08     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-05 13:16       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-05 15:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-05 19:47           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-05 20:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-05 22:32               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-06  7:54                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-06 12:03                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-06 12:24                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-06 23:32                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-07  6:12                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-07 16:13                   ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-07 16:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-07 16:51                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-04-07 17:12                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-07 20:11                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-04-08  6:36                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-08  1:38                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-08 10:48                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-04-08 22:19                           ` chad
2015-04-09 13:16                             ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-09  1:16                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-09  7:27                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-09 12:20                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-09 12:51                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-09 16:12                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-08 18:19                         ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-09  1:31                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-09  7:36                             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-04-09 16:24                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-09 16:35                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-10  4:53                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-10  7:49                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-10  8:30                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-11 19:18                                 ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-12  6:10                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-13 21:06                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-04-13 23:08                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-14 17:16                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-04-14 17:31                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-14 21:23                                         ` João Távora
2015-04-15  2:46                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-15  8:09                                             ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2015-04-15 16:13                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-15 16:21                                                 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2015-04-15 16:36                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-14 21:47                                       ` Steinar Bang
2015-04-08 18:21                       ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-08 18:29                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-08 19:18                           ` John Yates
2015-04-09 13:41                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-08  1:32                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-08 18:19                       ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-09  1:19                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-09  7:31                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-09 11:43                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-04-07 20:45                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-08  5:39                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-05 17:42         ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-05 18:04           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-06  5:50             ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-06  7:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-06  7:45                 ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2015-04-07 16:13                 ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-07 17:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-08 12:02                 ` Sebastien Vauban
2015-04-08 12:26                   ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2015-04-08 18:01                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-04-08 12:38                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-15  0:34               ` Rostislav Svoboda
2015-04-05 17:42     ` Richard Stallman
2015-04-05 19:01       ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2015-04-05 21:00       ` Dmitry Gutov

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