From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
Cc: dak@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:11:01 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83fv1a6bfu.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <876126key3.fsf@gnu.org>
> From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès)
> Cc: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 17:31:32 +0200
>
> > libunistring calls libiconv.
>
> ‘iconv’ is in libc on most systems though, the exceptions being Windows
> and old proprietary Unices, AFAIK.
Which leaves what, apart of GNU/Linux?
In any case, Emacs can never be satisfied with the current Guile
infrastructure for i18n. There are too many shortcomings, some of
them were mentioned here. Yes, Guile can be fixed to be better in
that area, but no one is working on that, AFAIK, and what's more
important, lead Guile developers don't even agree Guile should move in
that direction. (This especially puzzles me: to have a good example
before you and not follow it? Emacs learned what it has now the hard
way, have paid in blood, sweat and tears for that knowledge, and still
Guile developers think they "know better"? Present parties excluded,
of course.)
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2015-10-11 8:11 Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-11 8:17 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-11 22:02 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-10-11 22:14 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-11 22:37 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-11 22:37 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-10-11 22:49 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-11 22:51 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-11 23:12 ` Drew Adams
2015-10-12 2:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 21:30 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-10-12 20:01 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-11 8:54 ` Alexis
2015-10-11 10:53 ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-11 11:23 ` Thomas Koch
2015-10-11 13:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 13:36 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-11 13:39 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 13:55 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-11 14:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 12:52 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-10-11 12:59 ` Fabrice Popineau
2015-10-11 17:25 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-11 18:32 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-11 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 19:43 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-11 19:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 20:13 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-12 2:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 3:59 ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-12 8:12 ` Steinar Bang
2015-10-12 9:36 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-10-12 10:20 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-12 12:23 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-12 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 20:00 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-13 2:36 ` Rustom Mody
2015-10-12 10:56 ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-10-11 21:52 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-12 7:14 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-12 12:48 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-12 13:22 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-12 14:18 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-12 15:04 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-12 18:24 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-12 19:21 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-12 19:39 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-12 19:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 20:11 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-12 20:42 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-10-12 20:46 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-13 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-13 16:22 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-13 16:40 ` Drew Adams
2015-10-13 16:49 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-12 20:40 ` Drew Adams
2015-10-13 4:18 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-13 6:00 ` immerrr again
2015-10-13 14:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-13 1:12 ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-13 10:01 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-13 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-13 15:20 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-14 15:04 ` Chris Patti
2015-10-14 15:34 ` Jay Belanger
2015-10-16 12:25 ` Guile-Emacs Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-16 12:03 ` Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-16 13:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 14:55 ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-10-16 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 15:25 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-16 15:51 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-16 14:29 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-16 15:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 15:28 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-16 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 15:31 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-16 16:11 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-10-16 19:34 ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-16 19:51 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-16 19:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-16 20:51 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-17 5:27 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-17 7:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 9:44 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-17 10:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-18 10:22 ` Ludovic Courtès
2015-10-18 11:33 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-18 12:54 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-18 13:17 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-18 14:40 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-18 15:31 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-18 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-18 16:37 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-18 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-18 17:06 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-18 17:11 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-18 17:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-18 17:52 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-18 18:23 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-10-18 18:35 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-18 18:53 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-10-18 19:03 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-18 19:13 ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-18 19:35 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-18 19:49 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-10-19 7:59 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-19 10:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-19 10:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-19 11:31 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-19 12:04 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-19 11:24 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-20 4:18 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-20 7:36 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-20 10:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-19 12:26 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-19 12:53 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-19 17:43 ` Tom Tromey
2015-10-19 18:06 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-20 2:46 ` Tom Tromey
2015-10-19 8:46 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-19 9:39 ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-19 5:33 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-26 11:01 ` Alexis
2015-10-18 19:16 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-18 22:38 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-10-20 7:34 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-18 16:40 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-18 16:56 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-18 17:46 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-19 7:45 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2015-10-17 15:38 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-17 16:25 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-17 16:43 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-17 17:00 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-17 16:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 17:03 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-17 17:08 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-17 17:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 18:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-17 17:04 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-17 17:32 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-17 17:42 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-17 18:34 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-17 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 21:22 ` Taylan Ulrich Bayırlı/Kammer
2015-10-18 0:23 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-18 15:53 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-18 16:58 ` Tom Tromey
2015-10-18 17:40 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-18 19:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-18 20:47 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-19 3:55 ` Tom Tromey
2015-10-20 7:33 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-12 19:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-13 8:27 ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-13 8:52 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2015-10-13 10:19 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-10-13 15:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-13 19:45 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-10-13 15:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-13 16:09 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-13 20:43 ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-13 16:06 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-13 20:20 ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-13 21:22 ` emacs IDE features (was: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language) Andrés Ramírez
2015-10-13 22:13 ` emacs IDE features John Wiegley
2015-10-14 11:11 ` Phillip Lord
2015-10-16 23:13 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-17 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17 23:51 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-18 0:48 ` Sacha Chua
2015-10-18 2:34 ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-10-18 17:05 ` Sacha Chua
2015-10-18 17:31 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-18 16:21 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-19 16:37 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-10-18 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-18 17:30 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-19 10:30 ` Phillip Lord
2015-10-20 6:56 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-13 22:10 ` Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language John Wiegley
2015-10-12 23:00 ` Camm Maguire
2015-10-13 1:38 ` Alexis
2015-10-13 1:40 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-10-13 23:34 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-13 23:55 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-13 5:28 ` Ken Raeburn
2015-10-13 5:39 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-13 10:13 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-14 1:43 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-10-13 6:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-12 13:50 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-12 15:17 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-12 15:35 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-12 16:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 22:39 ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-13 11:27 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-13 11:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-13 12:02 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-13 12:21 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-10-13 12:22 ` Mathieu Lirzin
2015-10-13 13:52 ` John Yates
2015-10-13 14:30 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-13 16:26 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-10-13 16:40 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-13 14:38 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-13 13:06 ` Sergey Organov
2015-10-13 14:19 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-13 14:39 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-13 15:21 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-13 15:53 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-13 16:09 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-13 16:23 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-13 16:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-13 16:38 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-13 15:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-13 15:42 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-13 15:32 ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-13 16:13 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-13 21:02 ` Andy Moreton
2015-10-14 8:15 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-14 13:28 ` Andy Moreton
2015-10-14 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-14 10:22 ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-14 10:56 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-10-14 11:14 ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-14 11:33 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-14 12:12 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-10-14 11:46 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-14 12:29 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-10-14 11:21 ` Mathieu Lirzin
2015-10-14 16:05 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-13 16:13 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-12 15:09 ` Paul Eggert
2015-10-12 15:24 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-12 15:24 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-10-12 16:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 17:20 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-13 12:02 ` Marcus Harnisch
2015-10-13 23:38 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-14 1:46 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-10-14 13:08 ` Marcus Harnisch
2015-10-12 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 17:47 ` Steinar Bang
2015-10-12 17:59 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-12 21:28 ` Daniel Colascione
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