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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Prickliness of the "invalid byte code" stuff
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 21:44:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83fto6sphn.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwva7ee93hy.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:11:01 -0400)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu,  rms@gnu.org,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:11:01 -0400
> 
> byte-compile-dynamic is a compilation option which makes the .elc file
> have the actual bytes of the bytecoded functions lazy-loaded (in the
> same way as the docstrings are lazy-loaded: the byte-code-function-p
> objects contain in their bytecode field a "pointer" to the
> file-and-position so the bytecodes are fecthed on-demand when the
> function is called, via `fetch-bytecode`).
> 
> This was introduced at the same time as the lazy loading of docstrings.
> 
> The files using this option are expected to be faster to load (because
> we load a bit less into heap).

There's also the effect on Emacs memory footprint, right?

> The downsides are:
> - it doesn't work when the .elc files are compressed.
> - it doesn't work when the .elc files are loaded via Tramp.
> - If the .elc files is re-generated after the .elc file was loaded,
>   calling functions from that file typically signal an error (such as
>   "invalid byte code").

The same problems happen with lazily loading doc strings, right?  Or
is that different in some way?

> A `grep byte-compile-dynamic: **/*.el` seems to indicate it's currently
> used in 12 files bundled with Emacs.

Any idea why those 12 use it?

Thanks.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-06-18 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-15 12:36 Prickliness of the "invalid byte code" stuff Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-15 14:30 ` Andreas Schwab
2019-06-16  2:40   ` Richard Stallman
2019-06-16 12:41     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-06-16 13:27       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-16 17:47     ` T.V Raman
2019-06-16 22:01       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17  2:39         ` T.V Raman
2019-06-17 13:32           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17 16:04             ` Richard Stallman
2019-06-17 18:10               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-17 22:52                 ` Paul Eggert
2019-06-17 22:53                   ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18  0:14                     ` T.V Raman
2019-06-18 12:14                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 13:51                         ` T.V Raman
2019-06-18 14:15                           ` T.V Raman
2019-06-18 16:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-18 18:11                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 18:23                         ` T.V Raman
2019-06-18 18:52                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-18 19:54                             ` T.V Raman
2019-06-19  2:36                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-19 13:54                                 ` T.V Raman
2019-06-19 15:36                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-18 18:44                         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-06-18 19:48                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-18 19:52                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-19 16:08                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-19 16:25                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-19 17:04                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-19 19:02                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-19 21:35                                 ` T.V Raman
2019-06-21  7:52                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-21 14:10                                     ` T.V Raman
2019-06-21 14:15                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-21 14:34                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-06-21 15:04                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-06-18  3:09                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-06-17 16:01           ` Richard Stallman

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