From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PL support Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 21:43:09 +0300 Message-ID: <83ftc69ute.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <83imh5dnun.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7wpdms7.fsf@gnu.org> <83ftc9dm07.fsf@gnu.org> <0d678371-2df7-519e-5ec0-7e26bfa6ea34@gmail.com> <11dff979-002e-e03e-2e3e-cdb09fcc409e@yandex.ru> <8017be3d-a4ed-61eb-9bdb-9a95c77a0698@gmail.com> <3adf65ae-fd0d-4fee-adfd-e11d39a148fc@yandex.ru> <01e211df-acfb-fb8a-eedc-7cb439b64cd8@yandex.ru> <57491476-b7d1-ed1e-9eaf-bc45db607ae8@yandex.ru> <835zd2bf2h.fsf@gnu.org> <1c43f78b-2bc5-8c81-4a57-ba63bb721c85@yandex.ru> <83wo5i9z21.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="6706"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: cpitclaudel@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 11 20:44:17 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYDPV-0001dl-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 20:44:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47854 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYDPU-0006nE-5p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 14:44:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45922) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYDOq-0005xc-N4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 11 May 2020 14:43:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43954) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYDOq-0006Jg-Dw; Mon, 11 May 2020 14:43:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1895 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jYDOU-0002xz-UI; Mon, 11 May 2020 14:43:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Mon, 11 May 2020 21:11:50 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249861 Archived-At: > Cc: rms@gnu.org, cpitclaudel@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 21:11:50 +0300 > > > What do you mean by "nearly-built-in support"? And how are we losing > > it? > > If some wants to edit some ML files, they can 'M-x package-install > sml-mode'. If they want a popup based completion interface, then can > 'M-x package-install company' (and M-x global-company-mode, okay). All > fast, without a need to customize anything. > > For YAML, for example, this is not an option. But it could be. I don't see how a one-time addition of a simple customization could be characterized as "losing". > GNU ELPA has largely been Stefan's project That's news to me. Last I heard, Stefan stepped down from maintaining Emacs some time ago.