From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "whether the global keymap C-x 4 will be replaced by a command," Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 17:51:34 +0300 Message-ID: <83ft9um9op.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83ft9woo68.fsf@gnu.org> <87wo377wxp.fsf_-_@mail.linkov.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36856"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 14 16:52:16 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jvMI3-0009Tl-VQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:52:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35670 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jvMI3-0005fF-1c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:52:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59452) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jvMHZ-0005Fd-TS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:51:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:60740) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jvMHZ-0004UE-3z; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:51:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2932 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jvMHQ-0002T0-QN; Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:51:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 14 Jul 2020 01:55:10 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252951 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 01:55:10 -0400 > Cc: Richard Stallman , emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > This means that after binding the current ctl-x-4-map in Emacs core > > to the other-window command, 'C-h k C-x 4' will display the help for > > that command, not for the whole sequence 'C-h k C-x 4 C-f'. > > I don't think we can/should make `C-h k` read all of `C-x 4 C-f`, indeed. I think that would be a step back. Is it indeed not possible to keep the existing behavior regarding prefixed commands? > But maybe we could make the following work: `C-x 4 C-h k C-f`. How would the user remember when to start with C-h and when to type it in the middle of a key sequence?