From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Opaque objects and Emacs documentation Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 19:22:26 +0300 Message-ID: <83ft9jfrjx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <6edffb7d-7708-534f-93ad-bf9180f5e0ed@yandex.ru> <835zamjsvk.fsf@gnu.org> <831rlajock.fsf@gnu.org> <1fcdc463-b3ab-2d32-31d7-904783ae0d81@yandex.ru> <83y2nii6sk.fsf@gnu.org> <69716ecb-8984-23e0-8b44-322ea3582384@yandex.ru> <20200721193618.GA8562@ACM> <39246b13-744d-3680-50ee-d8946a3ac060@yandex.ru> <83h7tzfwpc.fsf@gnu.org> <00ca68b1-de46-2cd7-a764-037384273226@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12913"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, npostavs@gmail.com To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 22 18:23:16 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jyHWW-0003Gu-7D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 18:23:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58232 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jyHWV-0001Ft-A0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:23:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35100) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jyHVt-0000pv-9K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:22:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52073) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jyHVr-0004c5-NU; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:22:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2754 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jyHVk-0005As-B7; Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:22:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: <00ca68b1-de46-2cd7-a764-037384273226@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Wed, 22 Jul 2020 18:33:55 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:253162 Archived-At: > Cc: acm@muc.de, rms@gnu.org, npostavs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 18:33:55 +0300 > > On 22.07.2020 17:31, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> The alternative would be not writing said program at all. > > Technically, there's another alternative: implement said programs via > > different design patterns. But that's a separate discussion. > > How about we avoid unsubstantiated statements here? Which ones?