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> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 18:01:59 -0400
> 
> The recent proposal to use dark mode by default brings up a technical
> question: I thought Emacs's default foreground and background colors
> were not hardcoded by Emacs but were taken from the user's "general"
> config (i.e. the desktop environment).
> 
> Does this mechanism fail to work for some reason, or have desktop
> environments just stopped providing that info?

Not sure which mechanism you alluded to.  We supported, and still do
support, default color specification in X resources, in particular in
~/.Xdefaults.