From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again: Use monospaced fonts less Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 17:24:29 +0300 Message-ID: <83ft6fy3c2.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83v9ftf6n9.fsf@gnu.org> <835z7qfp6h.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft6lgw5y.fsf_-_@gnus.org> <1F8F3522-1E6C-40A3-B61A-B9B84FC0AD18@gnu.org> <87blh9gthg.fsf@gnus.org> <87tuv1f2y9.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8l9f1dl.fsf@gnus.org> <83lfgc50gb.fsf@gnu.org> <875z7gflpl.fsf@gnus.org> <83imbf2xux.fsf@gnu.org> <87lfgbarkk.fsf@gnus.org> <83zh4q195b.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgah1mjz.fsf@gnus.org> <83r1q0zwlp.fsf@gnu.org> <87wnzsyofc.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0vry4cu.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9fbwpjr.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10230"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 15 16:25:01 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kT4Bg-0002Wn-UV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 16:25:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51320 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kT4Bg-0004Yu-1a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:25:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35362) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kT4B0-0003nW-1X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:24:18 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:51468) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kT4Az-0006KN-KZ; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:24:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3584 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kT4Ay-0001X6-2o; Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:24:16 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87v9fbwpjr.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 15 Oct 2020 16:07:36 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257736 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 16:07:36 +0200 > > >> > Or maybe we should re-purpose the WIDTH parameter of such formats to > >> > mean "min-width"? > >> > >> Hm... *ponder* I think that perhaps sounds like a complicating > >> factor. I mean, semantics-wise. > > > > I don't think I see the complications. Can you elaborate? > > I mean, it would be complicated if we did both. If we just extend > "%12b" to effectively be :min-width, then that'd be fine, I think. That is what I intended to propose. > Unless we want to do pixel-based :min-widths, but that's perhaps not so > useful... The idea is to interpret "12" in units of the canonical frame's character width, and do the calculations in pixels. I think this is good enough, as I don't envision a need for Lisp programs to fine-tune the position at pixel granularity.