From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Internationalize Emacs's messages (swahili) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 11:31:13 +0200 Message-ID: <83ft3sncbi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87o8ivumn5.fsf@telefonica.net> <87v9d3nkxk.fsf@gnus.org> <83sg7xrgr5.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7odrdwy.fsf@gnu.org> <86sg7w39fh.fsf@163.com> <83pn30pku5.fsf@gnu.org> <86wnx8otoj.fsf@163.com> <834kkbp9vr.fsf@gnu.org> <87czyxuxw6.fsf@db48x.net> <83sg7tm2es.fsf@gnu.org> <87tus9szo9.fsf@db48x.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9303"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, bugs@gnu.support, dimech@gmx.com, abrochard@gmx.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, all_but_last@163.com To: Daniel Brooks Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 26 10:32:40 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kt5wG-0002J3-7v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 10:32:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54358 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kt5wF-0000bI-Ab for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 04:32:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42372) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kt5vU-00009M-K0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 04:31:52 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58973) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kt5vS-0003qA-RA; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 04:31:50 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:3026 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kt5v5-0003fx-Rv; Sat, 26 Dec 2020 04:31:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87tus9szo9.fsf@db48x.net> (message from Daniel Brooks on Sat, 26 Dec 2020 01:07:50 -0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261799 Archived-At: > From: Daniel Brooks > Cc: all_but_last@163.com, bugs@gnu.support, dimech@gmx.com, > abrochard@gmx.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 01:07:50 -0800 > > Yes, I am aware of ngettext, and I could have picked a different > example. Consider the example from projectfluent.org, where the output > should change based on the user's gender: I think this issue is largely irrelevant to Emacs (and to translating program messages in general), since it customary nowadays to avoid gender-specific language. We certainly do that in Emacs. > > How many translated languages for how many programs does this project > > have? > > The main one that I know of is Firefox, which by my count has 96 > translations. I didn't mean one program, I meant the total count. It should be indicative to how easy it is to find people who are both programmers and can succinctly express themselves on technical issues in their native languages. IME, it is very hard to find such people.