From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 2e9111813b: Add two classic Common Lisp macro-writing macros Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 09:14:04 +0300 Message-ID: <83fsme3mc3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <164974332528.14217.12591424007013368601@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220412060205.8B446C01687@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87wnfux0ok.fsf@yahoo.com> <87r161po2g.fsf@athena.silentflame.com> <87y208z1p2.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16453"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, spwhitton@spwhitton.name To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 15 08:17:11 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nfFGY-000482-V8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 08:17:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60782 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfFGX-00072A-R5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 02:17:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49636) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfFDP-0005US-Qf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 02:13:56 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:52344) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfFDP-0005R7-Ed; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 02:13:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ylc+FqzlSgFQ26bMEQ4SIYAElERHtHFm5Og2h5J+VjI=; b=bQLGHrLJh7Rr s7lf2ZUIpoMOf9ukJbhNVnZdRR+bj6tNaS6ML9nyroHyjca6SVEwoXPnSQNFQs1fPioxIuf/Qzjlz QLS/Mh10k+fmHOm/V+Tx6QfKmPFY12tH98oH5POlMZNxyuWSU9a9KnXn+eBqbD9MVtoEdRm8PbgBD DK+pRNEvRrsXsB2H4NWixysWKqZEXKasMKIOKGn3tgpkyzn2HPBQis53feIz8tu25VMpjdK5WLSzz FP2fVvw0YRdj0dYi6r8QAclUN4R3Hwm2Vm6ROxMtCyjTygYialzutankafayzp8dZ3VsQmIW0oIlh nLjk+/sGbHjkK8Oq1UFgvg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=3248 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfFDO-0005Y3-BM; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 02:13:54 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 14 Apr 2022 23:59:40 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:288421 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 23:59:40 -0400 > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > > The purpose of the `cl-' prefix is so that we don't need to describe > > > those Common Lisp functions in the manual. That is for functions > > > whose reason for existence in Emacs Lisp is compatibility. > > > That might have been the initial purpose, but there are already things > > with that prefix which are not only for compatibility. For example, > > cl-letf, which isn't actually anywhere in CL but only in Elisp! > > Why was it given that name? Is there a good reason for that to be its > name? Should we rename it to `letf'? > > Is it documented in the Emacs Lisp Ref Manual now? No.