From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 513c5d827d: Use `format-prompt' in Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2022 12:38:24 +0300 Message-ID: <83fsh8ol0v.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83ilm4om39.fsf@gnu.org> <87r10sizhc.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18318"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 03 11:41:12 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oUPeK-0004cF-Gj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2022 11:41:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38512 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUPeJ-0007JN-Aj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2022 05:41:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58630) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUPc4-0006KK-6D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2022 05:38:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:53698) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUPc3-0004SC-EP; Sat, 03 Sep 2022 05:38:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=+0roDuedIi1yyn3oQYYurN6PACCJk5j4gbuQ2BGNzeQ=; b=aQCJeInntsFE +teR3HdIEQH2KGRqUv6S2QBgbGh2zgODB/1D67LghZwrlBITJ7xWCBvAYObzt9PLGebq4U2MiH2wF GzbGmZe/UN99Cn8A9FJarQm7u6dUzhWynzyd6IhwPWX/0+zjOerxSVfR3YdGVZZSul4HvMI+B9YKL HQ8XUg0Emx7s338TcWtaijpQyUmY80hBaimdrcyi0DQZ2LaJlZbK6hS2z0Ef3Pq56VI2MqzJ2CBDJ UoCvVK3hn/C/qW0hHyctNcS9UFl67vPB0UmWs8/oDngdeGEagpEthyUrGP7dEN++sxO4kr117M9ks FcHIwiyaT8HSynJc1m5HGw==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2405 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oUPc2-0000Hy-89; Sat, 03 Sep 2022 05:38:50 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87r10sizhc.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sat, 03 Sep 2022 11:22:39 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294630 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: Robert Pluim , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2022 11:22:39 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Thanks, but is this supposed to be an improvement? Before the change, > > I knew what the text meant and what was the "all" part about; after > > the change, I don't. It's a net loss, since the code is now less > > readable, and in fact without either running the code or looking at > > what format-prompt does, one cannot understand what the prompt will > > say in Real Life. > > `format-prompt' isn't about making the code more readable, but allowing > the users to customise how prompts look. So I don't understand the > objection -- it's a good change. I explained why I think it's less than good. There are two contradictory aspirations here that clash. You seem to be disregarding one of them.