From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Display of undisplayable characters: \U01F3A8 instead of diamond Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2022 21:32:11 +0300 Message-ID: <83fsh3ghn9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83y1v7w6eu.fsf@gnu.org> <2f302d1c3966849477b3@heytings.org> <83mtbiovzr.fsf@gnu.org> <83a67hq3l7.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtbhneht.fsf@gnu.org> <83czcakqd3.fsf@gnu.org> <87a67dxhfw.fsf@dataswamp.org> <875yi0wzx7.fsf@dataswamp.org> <834jxkk635.fsf@gnu.org> <878rmw8085.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83edwnj4fh.fsf@gnu.org> <87tu5j7tu1.fsf@dataswamp.org> <83a67bih0f.fsf@gnu.org> <83tu5jgvfy.fsf@gnu.org> <83sfl3gtah.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22351"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 07 20:37:20 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oVzvL-0005dE-A4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2022 20:37:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60766 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oVzvK-00072L-88 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2022 14:37:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43896) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oVzqe-0003Tk-Hg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2022 14:32:29 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:36638) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oVzqd-0004xa-PQ; Wed, 07 Sep 2022 14:32:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ZL4k6x12npK/qn4QIMIsCLkQLMr7S4YFBU1ZowKsuZ8=; b=IrLCI1cmr1h1 LRWuDuXhOFrj0N41l2fy7UCK4VM9VBYOr/wDyCNJ2WBh3Djr3/E0kkjbsNMcXP2+/VSAjEmaoK1hS OfLzIIq72JU3Oh+8ymdXumri/ELVjU+POwMvqog1vY7w/nlSAYMt+khMzcxGWbd1APNjM/zXq8N2m aQiRDJoVlwAeX6LGelP/JnGzON9yjZvtmPPfASHYICehv2RL3+b3x2V8csOZy7smvjwGccXkTqONL W1AFo4LoDboxlqBNM6KxEDbdMXjMA0SoGirci2SDllpX5JYt50hDX0eG9ffUsUPFMMxOpbKdoYopd /lKw8CaRPLfaUxT077gBtA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1796 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oVzqd-0005Qd-03; Wed, 07 Sep 2022 14:32:27 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Yuri Khan on Thu, 8 Sep 2022 00:29:55 +0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294866 Archived-At: > From: Yuri Khan > Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2022 00:29:55 +0700 > Cc: incal@dataswamp.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 21:20, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > You suggest semi-automatically saving the generated code in the init > > file, instead of the user copying it there manually? > > Does there have to be generated code involved? I was thinking it could > be static code acting on generated and cached data. Why does it matter? In Lisp, code is data, so how does it matter whether you generate code to call set-char-table-range for a range of characters, or generate just the range of characters that some code should then read and call set-char-table-range? > > (And yes, it has to be the init file, because if users dislike us > > writing into the init file, they dislike us writing to additional > > files even more.) > > Do they really? My ~/.emacs.d/var contains many files and I am not > bothered with them and I know I can afford to lose them. I said users, not all of the users including Yuri Khan. Just witness the frequent discussions regarding whether customizations should be written to this or that file.