From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master fe7c015b20: Support XFCE in wallpaper.el Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 10:56:17 +0300 Message-ID: <83fsgdjlni.fsf@gnu.org> References: <166336105908.23797.12319380359602540227@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220916204419.B124FC00872@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87edwavjyc.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wna1tr7z.fsf@yahoo.com> <83v8p9jr7k.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7v18hvo.fsf@yahoo.com> <83leq5joxs.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkr18ddk.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13033"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, thievol@posteo.net To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 27 10:48:11 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1od6GB-00039k-3z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2022 10:48:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36896 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1od6GA-0007qk-48 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2022 04:48:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44962) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1od5S8-00047y-SG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2022 03:56:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45518) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1od5S7-0005RY-0v; Tue, 27 Sep 2022 03:56:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=1uV2doVs7QJq+aY0lVS5mN8pmci2NWSJPRwKk+gxeSY=; b=pBMonUP8gqmR t2Gggwrurx80nEWjv+gHihDBnhbC59v8iVwyQY42PHgU+YhARPKCvt1zln/CeZdJou0i+UOS7SszX 0LeXRkpt2SV8rUtmUJ6X1Y0m/LsKamZkY7iA0aM8w4K2lK+bYq8CKesHo2VQT3J+AZexEuOIpOMhx EffPVMNfDVumbk4O3ALHtsc1fB9EKjtPmjxSqOm28TPBKymq+PtSm2K+D5aVSgMztrHBZ8vM38Arv L8suvOfIo6MJo8dbY5wEGV4SUKtoJXQjRgF4yCuarxUGeVQx6hJ9VL0htluyFrmehx33umGiF/mJE 9t66TfQi3ee0SNyx7oKwow==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2994 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1od5S4-0001C9-PO; Tue, 27 Sep 2022 03:56:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87bkr18ddk.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Tue, 27 Sep 2022 15:50:31 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296329 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, thievol@posteo.net > Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 15:50:31 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Yes, of course, mentioning those URLs will go a long way towards > > filling the current gap. If different environments/desktops have > > their separate specs, I think it is best to have them all mentioned, > > each one with the names of the environments/desktops for which it is > > relevant. > > > > Thanks. > > Different desktops do have their own properties, but they are too > numerous to list, unstandardized, and not really relevant for Emacs > users. Why should we second-guess what users will want? why not include those other specs, even though they aren't standardized? How many popular desktops which have these specs are out there? > X allows an arbitrary number of properties to be set on any window. > However, properties are most often set by the window manager or other > programs on the root window or FRAME's X window in order to communicate > information to Emacs and other programs. Most of these properties are > specified as part of the Extended Window Manager Hints and the > Inter-Client Communication Conventions Manual, which are located here: > > https://specifications.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-latest.html > > and > > https://x.org/releases/X11R7.6/doc/xorg-docs/specs/ICCCM/icccm.html SGTM, thanks.