From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Grammar checking Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2023 20:35:45 +0300 Message-ID: <83fs9jy07i.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sfdnyuxc.fsf@posteo.de> <83sfdl2z26.fsf@gnu.org> <58158ae49808189da7b2@heytings.org> <83mt3t2xz1.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzyxxqir.fsf@gmail.com> <58158ae4986fa602fe47@heytings.org> <83y1nbyb95.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20385"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gregory@heytings.org, nasser.alkmim@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, m.eliachevitch@posteo.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lynn Winebarger Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 01 19:35:55 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pif8q-0004tK-NE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2023 19:35:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pif8c-0002G6-Pr; Sat, 01 Apr 2023 13:35:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pif8a-0002Fi-Qk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2023 13:35:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pif8Z-0006ZM-Rf; Sat, 01 Apr 2023 13:35:36 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=RVbkiI9C+pqNNhRyamYvTpgx2qCidFob6LSm+PX6Faw=; b=sBTF4xK3WFs2 wvnDaGzvrty2l5cPFizBzbRCAJkdSNFGV/AqgLNAICY+U6BUoO0Yl2TNSx1NXSRj05Swx6qeMhgpt PqIQuf/qbHSVyjlmt5dZwV2WswP9+7S2Nwl+OqNaHgrSTDim0f4VrTGl9eBdgrsSu9qWNE6brJpjH T2ghWMM1MFiU6+qIk6ujfXhFtZfdMZVD8D/KWhpAgOYjnR5d4BqEfNiGMydjQgMJpsWZbWJndCgzc YnLAWjPgM6r2ziWyuvwH7cownVuWRJh02R/7HC0ZJW7552Cym7lUlvsfymduOc9Lq96Bh9XkpJ+mM v6Wx3fdtaizRLZ6N9wKINg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pif8T-0003sC-JX; Sat, 01 Apr 2023 13:35:29 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Lynn Winebarger on Sat, 1 Apr 2023 13:30:06 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305020 Archived-At: > From: Lynn Winebarger > Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2023 13:30:06 -0400 > Cc: gregory@heytings.org, nasser.alkmim@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, > m.eliachevitch@posteo.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > I might have misunderstood - this thread arose because you mentioned > that grammar correction was a higher priority than reimplementing > spell-checking support You have misunderstood. There's no precedence here at all. We need (and already have) spell-checking capabilities in Emacs, and will continue having and developing them. We _also_ need grammar-correcting capabilities, independently of spell-checking. > For me, this is primarily an intellectual exercise as I am not a > contributor (due to legal ambiguities about my right to assign > copyrights, not my willingness to do so), but I would like to > understand how the standards are applied in this situation. Am I > wrong about treating SaaSS consistently with nonfree software when it > comes to promoting its use? We are not discussing addition to Emacs of any features based on SaaSS.