From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Can't build latest emacs on MSW + CRLF display issue Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:11:30 +0300 Message-ID: <83eh9feyot.fsf@gnu.org> References: <807gfadm22.fsf@gmail.com> <83ob8lhkys.fsf@gnu.org> <83ioyth8pd.fsf@gnu.org> <83d2p1h5j7.fsf@gnu.org> <83ob8jf9dy.fsf@gnu.org> <4cli3nvuau.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1377630694 23674 80.91.229.3 (27 Aug 2013 19:11:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 19:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 27 21:11:36 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VEOfu-0003Em-Go for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:11:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58059 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VEOft-0001NK-V6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:11:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40256) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VEOfj-0001F5-QP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:11:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VEOfd-0004v1-OD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:11:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:59001) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VEOfd-0004us-Fg; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:11:17 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MS700F00EBY4K00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:11:16 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MS700EJHEMSSKC0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:11:16 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <4cli3nvuau.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163060 Archived-At: > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:54:17 -0400 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> On the other hand, I can't think of a single reason to _not_ remove it. > > > > The only reason is to let people have time to adapt to the change. > > This only makes sense if the old method is still being updated and > supported, which it isn't. It is already incomplete. I think it makes sense as long as it allows one to build a working binary. It still does that, AFAIK. > Plus, there are pre-built binaries being supplied, so anyone who can't > adapt (for some reason) is already covered. That doesn't cover the ability to make changes, something without which Free Software isn't. > >> If someone turns up and wants to do 1), it will be the least of their > >> problems to first revert the commit that removed the old method. > > > > Not if they build out of the release (or release-like) tarball. > > I hope we don't include an out-of-date, untested build process in the > next release. We will cross that bridge when we get to it (if it will need to be crossed). > There are pre-built binaries of releases anyway, so again > I don't see the issue. See above: I do see the issue.