From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Trunk r117046 fails on systems with older automake Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 05:54:18 +0300 Message-ID: <83eh05vv39.fsf@gnu.org> References: <868uqh4ust.fsf@gmail.com> <83tx95zffo.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4yh72qk.fsf@igel.home> <87tx956y9c.fsf@igel.home> <864n1459hp.fsf@gmail.com> <86tx92v4zi.fsf@gmail.com> <87eh06jqkl.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8361lixpmg.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4yei47w.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <831tw5y6h2.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhudidig.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1399517671 1826 80.91.229.3 (8 May 2014 02:54:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 02:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 08 04:54:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WiETX-0007wv-EF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2014 04:54:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44478 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WiETX-00033R-4r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 May 2014 22:54:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41088) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WiETP-00033J-A1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2014 22:54:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WiETK-0002hT-4r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2014 22:54:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:54771) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WiETJ-0002h9-Tg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 May 2014 22:54:10 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N5800I00H5OTY00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2014 05:52:32 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N5800GR5INK7U60@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Thu, 08 May 2014 05:52:32 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87lhudidig.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.184 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171776 Archived-At: > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Cc: andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 04:40:07 +0900 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > > > > No problem there, since I'm sure there are packaged pkg-configs. > > > > How do you mean "packaged"? They are just *.zip archives (not that it > > isn't enough, IMO). > > I mean cd to the right place, unzip, and you're ready to run. That's correct. > > > > and making sure its pkg.m4 file is in the directory where aclocal > > > > looks for such files. > > > > > > That's the kind of thing that shouldn't be necessary IMO. > > > > It cannot be avoided on Windows, because one needs to have 2 > > Posix-like trees: one for MSYS and another one for native MinGW > > programs. > > So? If you need two copies of pkg-config, install twice. One copy of pkg-config is enough, and there's no MSYS pkg-config binaries available (AFAIK) to become the 2nd copy. > If you don't, there should be an explanation of how to install it > and then copy/mv pkg.m4 so that the caller that needs it can find > it. It shouldn't be Andrew's or anybody else's problem to figure > these things out (unless they have installed them already someplace > other than where README.NT or whatever is appropriate suggests). People should feel free to add to nt/INSTALL what they think is necessary. My understanding for now is that no one really knows why things didn't work for them, and my setup, described in nt/INSTALL, does work for me.