From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why change the advertised bindings of Isearch commands? Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 09:58:29 +0200 Message-ID: <83egfbub4q.fsf@gnu.org> References: <98f8a71f-1f10-4ff6-a4c1-8dc2d179b84b@default> <87ziy05p3g.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <1a6f342a-3e59-4555-a345-e518cc598299@default> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448611152 17976 80.91.229.3 (27 Nov 2015 07:59:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 07:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@linkov.net To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 08:59:01 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a2Dvo-0003KF-SD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 08:59:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55221 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2Dvr-0002ct-KO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 02:59:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37680) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2Dvd-0002cb-Nf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 02:58:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2DvZ-0001tV-N5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 02:58:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:40178) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a2DvZ-0001tM-Er for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 02:58:45 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NYG00B00RHFHH00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 09:58:43 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NYG00BHFRHV8E80@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 27 Nov 2015 09:58:43 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <1a6f342a-3e59-4555-a345-e518cc598299@default> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:195347 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:03:28 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: Emacs-devel > > > 1. C-h c M-e - M-e runs the command forward-sentence > > 2. C-h c M-c - M-c runs the command capitalize-word > > 3. C-h c M-r - M-r runs the command move-to-window-line-top-bottom > > > > IOW, those are keys that are more useful to exit Isearch and do > > what they do normally, thus advertising the new bindings will help > > to get rid of old bindings in later releases. > > I disagree that we should remove those keys from the realm of > Isearch just because they have global bindings. There are many, > many keys that you can use to exit Isearch. And different users > use different such keys to exit. And different users care to > have different keys exit and act immediately. The issue is not how to exit Isearch. The issue is how to go forward one sentence or capitalize a word while in Isearch. What you are saying is that a user who spots a word to be capitalized during Isearch needs to do at least 2 things: exit Isearch with some key, then type M-c. Jury wants just M-c within Isearch to do both.