From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 012487b: * lisp/display-line-numbers.el (display-line-numbers-type): Autoload it. Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 05:36:40 +0300 Message-ID: <83eft56y4n.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20170723072843.23485.53761@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20170723072844.877FD22EF0@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87inijxnda.fsf@detlef> <83r2x57orp.fsf@gnu.org> <83o9s97lul.fsf@gnu.org> <83fudl7k0p.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1500950231 13834 195.159.176.226 (25 Jul 2017 02:37:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2017 02:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 25 04:37:01 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dZpiM-0002WU-K3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2017 04:36:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58079 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dZpiQ-0004d4-LL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:36:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56875) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dZpiG-0004cy-II for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:36:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dZpiD-0005kK-FK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:36:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51483) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dZpiD-0005kE-Bh; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:36:41 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3971 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dZpiC-0004jj-PH; Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:36:41 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:02:29 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217008 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 16:02:29 -0400 > > > I'd need first to better understand the problem and its proposed > > solutions. How can you expect me to make up my mind about this > > without at least that much? As of now, I don't understand well enough > > the choice I have; without that, Michael's code looks to me as a > > perfectly valid solution for a real problems, and I see no reason to > > look for an alternative. > > As far as I know, there was no "real problem". There was > only a byte-compiler warning. He chose to silence it with an > `autoload', because he thought the warning was real. > Glenn pointed out that a simple defvar to silence the byte-compiler > was sufficient, because the warning was spurious. We are miscommunicating. By "the problem" I meant the reason(s) why autoloading a defcustom should be considered undesirable, and by "proposed solutions" the alternatives for making sure a defcustom'd variable is defined when it is needed.