From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GNU Emacs raison d'etre - 1981-ish version Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 13:18:06 +0300 Message-ID: <83eerl33j5.fsf@gnu.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="8701"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: excalamus@tutanota.com, eduardoochs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 15 12:19:24 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jZXR6-00026M-1P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 May 2020 12:19:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46270 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZXR5-0000Be-3C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 May 2020 06:19:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46606) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZXQ5-0007GY-Cr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 May 2020 06:18:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59507) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jZXQ4-0003Nx-El; Fri, 15 May 2020 06:18:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1740 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jZXQ3-0006P9-LP; Fri, 15 May 2020 06:18:20 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Robert Pluim on Fri, 15 May 2020 10:55:34 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250373 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 10:55:34 +0200 > Cc: excalamus@tutanota.com, Eduardo Ochs > > Emacs> I believe that other editors could occupy this space but do not.  > Emacs> Other editors are either word processors or IDEs.  Emacs is a hybrid; > Emacs> there are authors who use Emacs solely for writing and the are > Emacs> developers who use it solely for programming.  Emacs feels different > Emacs> because it shortens the distance between question and answer.  Other > Emacs> editors require searching externally (does MS Word even still have F1 > Emacs> help?).  Emacs can be searched inside and out. > > Which is one of Emacs' great strengths, but I fear the current > generation are missing out on it: I see lots of problem reports saying > "website so and so says this, but my Emacs behaves differently", where > the solution is to consult the documentation inside emacs. It appears > people have become conditioned to doing a web search for manuals, I think this happens because more and more packages come without any documentation whatsoever.