From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Interactive guide for new users (was: Re: Gather a list of confusions beginner tend to have) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:28:57 +0300 Message-ID: <83een8fi2u.fsf@gnu.org> References: <875z8ortot.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <83lfhjkq0r.fsf@gnu.org> <8620B5CD-CA92-46BF-80A8-DBE7052F4CA6@gmail.com> <32292E31-1603-4EF9-B772-EBD378C32F76@gmail.com> <83o8mcfjxb.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13489"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 11 17:31:07 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGl10-0003QW-Ss for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 17:31:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58106 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGl0z-0006rI-Tc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:31:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45212) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGkz3-0005Z4-Va for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:29:05 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41276) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGkz2-00074w-Lu; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:29:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4594 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kGkyy-0005F9-6M; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:29:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Gregory Heytings on Fri, 11 Sep 2020 15:20:18 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255205 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 15:20:18 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings > cc: casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > But the tutorial is not just about keybindings. It explains a lot of > > other turf, mainly the important concepts: buffer, window, mode line, > > etc. > > > > A new user does not need to understand those subtleties. I wouldn't call these basics "subtleties". They are the most fundamental terminology in Emacs. > He already has an intuitive notion of what a buffer and a window > are, which suffices to start using Emacs. He does? Where from? Windows mean something else in the other apps, and buffers are not available in most of them. > BTW, there is another option that I would add in screen 3: tab-line-mode. Is the tab-line really such an important feature? If so, why isn't it turned on by default?