From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Current mode command discovery Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 19:03:29 +0200 Message-ID: <83eeh9xsim.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87v9aubm96.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1laomak.fsf@gnus.org> <87zgzxlgvo.fsf@gnus.org> <83im6lxwnt.fsf@gnu.org> <87blcdjuce.fsf@gnus.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6991"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 21 18:10:55 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lDsFx-0001jJ-SV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 18:10:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43708 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDsFw-00020w-5k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 12:10:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59280) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDs95-0005E4-8t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 12:03:50 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:37751) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lDs94-0002Oi-UR; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 12:03:46 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2179 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lDs8z-0002L6-VS; Sun, 21 Feb 2021 12:03:43 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87blcdjuce.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 21 Feb 2021 16:47:45 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265408 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 16:47:45 +0100 > > > Careful: the completion predicate is not just for M-x, it is also for > > "C-h x" and other commands that complete on functions and commands. > > Hm... that's certainly a wrinkle here. On the other hand, > `C-h f digit-argument' would work as always. Is "C-h x" the only command to use this, in addition to M-x? > The four commands under discussion here (see the bug report) all have in > common that nobody would actually `M-x' them, because they do nothing if > you do that. (I think? I'm not 100% sure about `digit-argument'.) So > they're commands because they're bound to keys only. > > So I'm leaning towards being fine with `C-h x ignorTAB' not expanding to > `ignore'. Probably. "C-h x" is a command we introduced for newbies, and then we proceed confusing them with commands that cannot be shown with "C-h x"? is that reasonable and consistent?