From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 11:52:48 +0300 Message-ID: <83eeaene73.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h7fcnmq0.fsf@posteo.net> <87o89kw0hl.fsf@gnus.org> <0c369b25-aedd-1fdf-4813-503f27e42c7c@yandex.ru> <874kbbznwv.fsf@gmail.com> <8735qvwcqt.fsf@gmail.com> <877dg65j3d.fsf@gmail.com> <87pmtyezjr.fsf@gmail.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18135"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: danflscr@gmail.com, arthur.miller@live.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tim Cross Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 28 10:54:03 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mJu6E-0004QC-Mh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 10:54:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46502 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJu6C-0005Mf-JK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 04:54:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40624) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJu5H-0004Ri-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 04:53:03 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:57818) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJu5G-0004UO-3p; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 04:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2700 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mJu5F-0004Da-K6; Sat, 28 Aug 2021 04:53:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87pmtyezjr.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Tim Cross on Sat, 28 Aug 2021 17:53:34 +1000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273258 Archived-At: > From: Tim Cross > Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 17:53:34 +1000 > Cc: Daniel Fleischer , emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Despite what others have claimed, the security problems with email have > NOT been addressed. It is still one of the major vectors for > compromising access via social engineering, major vector for infection > from ransomeware, frequent source of privacy breeches and a common means > used to get sensitive data out of an organisation. And other means of communications aren't? Are there _any_ means that are immune to these attacks? > For younger people, I suspect part of it is just a perception of email > as being old and outdated and not fitting as well with their 'style' of > communication, which tends to be about short messages and group chat in > near 'real time'. Email is almost as real-time as the other means nowadays.