From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : New key binding syntax Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 09:40:14 +0200 Message-ID: <83ee7cwq3l.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <2983368.DOhyMDKghp@galex-713.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17955"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alexandre Garreau Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 19 08:43:01 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mnyY0-0004Tj-Du for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:43:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60036 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnyXz-0000rT-27 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 02:42:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35884) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnyVa-00078W-HF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 02:40:30 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=53270 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnyVZ-0003rs-P3; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 02:40:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=q6GZIAodYO7oy+Ifzh1lAgYZM1jrhZ20Ak+0aNx59rM=; b=IZijttCsw3DC+DoXErmW wb8zLOhTjULvnfakkgy996Vf9xI/LwaQ4fEkhFnWxx3u1lZmYBCydHL0F/LwQGFv5gkvSgfeIi6CC hscbSv7CEjpoV9m7SF0tAEBGsek+gJA5uIac5qXE/Wp3esMu/9cTXi2nWifHS3yiR526acWuU0DR4 cx4UZGypLgGLV+B7IC1s5R6/JwOWYcq+1ZXSL1znulyTCtTV3JNF1B7w+8e7ryeN/x14Lcqfop/nh gAbTznSjxGGWFCzTn6nFI/ZAesqy+tRAlDW5GQ23wvqyd+ZeTWYJQ8MYRqfK9Zwn+INQK3Xl6Qz1E MgLzOkJJq/uRcA==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=2913 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnyVL-00060k-Fp; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 02:40:16 -0500 In-Reply-To: <2983368.DOhyMDKghp@galex-713.eu> (message from Alexandre Garreau on Fri, 19 Nov 2021 07:05:12 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279725 Archived-At: > From: Alexandre Garreau > Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 07:05:12 +0100 > Cc: Stefan Kangas , drew.adams@oracle.com > > > I am against making this change in Emacs. > > Why? everybody does that now and that’s strictly more recognizable for > most of people (especially newcomers) nowadays Does that mean you want us to go through all our manuals and the tutorial, and change C-x and C-M-y into Ctrl+x and Ctrl+Alt+y? And then change all the key-binding APIs to accept the above notation as well? Because if we don't do that, there will be two very different ways of specifying key sequences, and that will confuse newcomers even more.