From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding a "quick-help" menu Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 15:51:10 +0300 Message-ID: <83edv2y7y9.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87v8pn4968.fsf@posteo.net> <87h7156lg5.fsf@gnus.org> <878rmhdkc9.fsf@posteo.net> <87fsgnfzb2.fsf@posteo.net> <87h7030xnd.fsf@posteo.net> <87czanqbny.fsf@protesilaos.com> <83v8ofxaom.fsf@gnu.org> <87mt9qlopl.fsf@posteo.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="31101"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: info@protesilaos.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 20 16:58:46 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1olX0P-0007t9-Re for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 16:58:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33546 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olX0N-0001ru-G0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 10:58:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [::1] (helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olWtn-0006CE-1Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 10:51:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50560) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olV1U-0000RQ-Sd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 08:51:47 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:58718) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olV1R-0004s6-3s; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 08:51:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=haeX9ETU3B4D0rWdQ07GeOzAMrCvnvTYOzABXnVkPP0=; b=bTclZphcW9FU cX0cU7h1W9U4LSLj2OQejSZxSFzAgKZ1CGODKY8pbxp3WqXmK0K4i3IwRW4Si7okbC57c9ryI56VB 16FUmirFupPzaX00yIjTEwLixpbU0HFt7g0ABTjsQZb2lmeRdVsdUF50ctE/028hREJDX5tfYs/BD HQq5yphQidMc0W4eLdy2J6LAEhMyPYU8hkWK5WcpYLIEaysevb8ryslWCN81v3on2aveVgbolGmos qIMqSNfIfqJJTpUD6ZAW5kRqrOZxde3JY9sbQUxeT5jQiiKN50gk3+8YT82AkFle7nKUqe/rqCf4p Nhr1kA7nsm10xxoFvkb84w==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1168 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1olV14-0000yk-Ib; Thu, 20 Oct 2022 08:51:35 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87mt9qlopl.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Philip Kaludercic on Thu, 20 Oct 2022 11:27:34 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298147 Archived-At: > From: Philip Kaludercic > Cc: Protesilaos Stavrou , stefankangas@gmail.com, > larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 11:27:34 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Protesilaos Stavrou > >> Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org > >> Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 08:58:09 +0300 > >> > >> The format notwithstanding, C-h q could also be mentioned in the > >> TUTORIAL, no? > > > > I'm not sure, FWIW. Why is it important to have "C-h q" in the > > tutorial? We only show a handful of Help commands there, and we do > > that for a reason. > > I could imagine that something along the lines of "If you find it > difficult to remember the important bindings, you can always request an > overview with C-h q". There are more important C-h bindings than that, if we think we should have more in the tutorial. I think we should see how helpful this new binding is before we decide it is a good addition to the tutorial. We've just added it a few days ago.