From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Indentation and gc Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:07:04 +0300 Message-ID: <83edmeuixj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20230310110747.4hytasakomvdyf7i.ref@Ergus> <838rg4zmg9.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttyrwobj.fsf@localhost> <20230311111730.fatow74xnbel7t3f@Ergus> <83o7ozwju8.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzznwjh3.fsf@localhost> <83jzznwjeh.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsabwirg.fsf@localhost> <83h6urwhu0.fsf@gnu.org> <875yb7wgpd.fsf@localhost> <83bkkzwgcp.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1o3v1fr.fsf@localhost> <838rg3wf7k.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8j7v0a4.fsf@localhost> <835yb7were.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0tvuzpl.fsf@localhost> <834jqrwbgu.fsf@gnu.org> <87a60grf9t.fsf@localhost> <83h6uou842.fsf@gnu.org> <87cz1y86yc.fsf@localhost> <83h6raukcj.fsf@gnu.org> <87a5x2828i.fsf@localhost> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25478"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, arne_bab@web.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 14 18:07:30 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1q9T1t-0006M0-Uo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2023 18:07:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q9T1G-00080O-1v; Wed, 14 Jun 2023 12:06:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q9T1D-0007zo-Ae for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jun 2023 12:06:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q9T1B-0005yQ-MU; Wed, 14 Jun 2023 12:06:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=h1KjuQMHK0JPgS74dEGHykPjF7Exnofxfu3Y97iRZ1Y=; b=rzHQvPzWCVzm mbCrGKU0vNRCpTQIqUNEKs3eoGMzDXWUpFD0RjZ8RvN0KBtaOhlczSJn81MOb9knK0CPSTD1M6Aze t5DoM2hrj3ldGD8RZPvKKuJ8aa+Wm3tuLzwryk3qX77V/FbhfidGRUTJztRNydD+JFTJsziJ7Qvan EJhNDOogfj+ZraCz25KM3BcYWIlScc5rGesFkFZsrqKjKdRBkQrm2eGwPwHQEAE5R8i/nrYcp/VTG tBK1/ELRKt4DzpQrbtaR5A1QpI881Zmgz9ul/pbAIA9VM7i2KG92jCSTYaeu+BwmWqdBlybFMtZC3 fJkzqW0VDsEsRjcfhy+RYg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1q9T1B-0006cj-7F; Wed, 14 Jun 2023 12:06:45 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87a5x2828i.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:58:37 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306799 Archived-At: > From: Ihor Radchenko > Cc: spacibba@aol.com, arne_bab@web.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:58:37 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> Now, we have https://elpa.gnu.org/devel/emacs-gc-stats.html > >> > >> Should we first try to collect existing usage stats, before asking > >> people to try non-standard GC settings? > > > > We could do both. But I don't think I understand what you mean by > > "existing usage stats". > > I meant to ask users install emacs-gc-stats and enable > emacs-gc-stats-mode, leaving all other Emacs GC as they are now. After > several weeks, we will ask these users to share the results. > This will provide the baseline. Yes, we definitely need a baseline. But the baseline should be based on the default values of the GC parameters, so people who share their statistics should take care to reset them to the default values. > If we want to ask about trying non-standard GC settings, then we first > need to decide which GC settings we should ask about: > `gc-cons-threshold' values; `gc-cons-percentage' values; the code from > ; > maybe something else. I don't think it matters, we should just need people to report the values they used.