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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: esr@thyrsus.com
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: VCSWITNESS = fail ** 2
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 19:36:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83d2jx85m3.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140112164520.GA6770@thyrsus.com>

> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:45:20 -0500
> From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:
> > Shouldn't that be
> > 
> > 	  VCSWITNESS="$vcswitness"
> > 
> > instead?
> 
> No. You're in a Makefile context.  The $$ needs to be doubled or
> it won't be passed to the shell.  I tested this.

Right, the problem was elsewhere.  This fixed it, AFAICS:

-       vcswitness='$$(srcdir)/../'$$dirstate;                          \
+       vcswitness='$(srcdir)/../'$$dirstate;                           \

> > That possibility was considered and rejected, for the reasons that
> > Stefan explained. 
> 
> I have not seen that explanation.

Here it is:

> - "make autoloads" causes an undesirable re-dump even when no autoload changed.
> - for that reason "autoloads" is not in the dependencies and is not
>   always run.
> 
> So the vcswitness is a completely opportunistic hack which forces
> a "make autoloads" every once in a while.

> >                 So you have just made things worse, not better.
> 
> The code wasn't working, so deleting it didn't leave us any worse
> off.

The situation with refreshing loaddefs.el became worse, see above.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-12 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-12 14:37 VCSWITNESS = fail ** 2 Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-12 15:02 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-01-12 15:17   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-12 17:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-12 16:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-12 16:45   ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-12 17:36     ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-01-12 18:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-12 18:45         ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-12 18:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-12 19:10             ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-12 21:00               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-13  2:31                 ` Glenn Morris
2014-01-12 19:25           ` David Kastrup
2014-01-12 19:42             ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-01-12 20:02               ` David Kastrup
2014-01-12 21:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-13 15:41   ` Richard Stallman

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