From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:24:30 +0200 Message-ID: <83d27x3kw1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <20141205175203.GB3120@thyrsus.com> <20141205193843.GC5067@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417811077 5941 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 20:24:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:24:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 21:24:28 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XwzQR-0002rt-3j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 21:24:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52363 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwzQQ-0003o9-Ms for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:24:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60131) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwzQJ-0003i2-BN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:24:24 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwzQE-0004QB-FE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:24:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:62875) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XwzQE-0004Pr-6G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 15:24:14 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NG400B00LR9K000@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:24:12 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NG400BRRM0C7L70@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:24:12 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20141205193843.GC5067@thyrsus.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179007 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 14:38:43 -0500 > From: "Eric S. Raymond" > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Stefan Monnier : > > > As to document browsing inside Emacs itself, Emacs is now a browser. > > > So rendering HTML solves that problem too. > > > > EWW/SHR looks a lot more crappy than Info-mode, so I don't think it's > > quite that easy. > > This problem can be fixed, and almost certainly will be simply because > HTML has such a a large constituency. If we build it, they will come. Then go do it first, and then come back with your suggestions when you are ready. If we like it, maybe we will switch, who knows. And once again, HTML output is available with Texinfo _today_.