From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Dynamic loading progress Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:55:31 +0200 Message-ID: <83d25buhr0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <54D80098.3020209@cs.ucla.edu> <54D85304.1030600@cs.ucla.edu> <54D9AC29.2020603@cs.ucla.edu> <54DA8539.1020905@cs.ucla.edu> <87zj8ktq8f.fsf@lifelogs.com> <54DD6413.1000403@cs.ucla.edu> <83wq3m436s.fsf@gnu.org> <54DDEB4D.5040300@dancol> <83egpt4zz6.fsf@gnu.org> <54DE12E9.5040606@dancol.org> <85twypiiug.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83zj8g3n16.fsf@gnu.org> <87twyolm8k.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <833868y8hf.fsf@gnu.org> <83twyowndy.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1424026560 27442 80.91.229.3 (15 Feb 2015 18:56:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:56:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 15 19:55:52 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YN4MB-0004CZ-NA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:55:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36272 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YN4MB-0007dt-4f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:55:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39077) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YN4Lv-0007cx-PC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:55:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YN4Lq-0001OS-SH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:55:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:50373) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YN4Lq-0001O0-G4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:55:30 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NJT00D00TEPRL00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:55:27 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NJT00D9TTWFN780@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:55:27 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:183107 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: stephen@xemacs.org, stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:36:20 -0500 > > >> > The capability of creating Lisp objects depends on the internals, > >> It doesn't have to be. > > Not sure what you mean here; can you elaborate? > > You don't need to know anything about the Lisp_Object representation > (other than it's an EMACS_INT) to call Fcons, Fintern, Fcar, ... Not every Lisp object has such a function. And what about the other direction: access a Lisp object's data from C? That is done almost entirely in C macros.