* Re: emacs-25 3e9ac80: Yet another doc improvement for search commands [not found] ` <E1a3SId-00085l-Mj@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> @ 2015-11-30 19:58 ` Artur Malabarba 2015-11-30 20:48 ` [Emacs-diffs] " Eli Zaretskii [not found] ` <<83oaebkybx.fsf@gnu.org> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Artur Malabarba @ 2015-11-30 19:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel, Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-diffs 2015-11-30 17:31 GMT+00:00 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>: > + The word search commands cannot > +support lax whitespace matching (@pxref{Lax Search}). Really? I could have sworn they can. Maybe we should fix this then. Because word-isearch does support lax-whitespace AFAIR. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 3e9ac80: Yet another doc improvement for search commands 2015-11-30 19:58 ` emacs-25 3e9ac80: Yet another doc improvement for search commands Artur Malabarba @ 2015-11-30 20:48 ` Eli Zaretskii 2015-12-01 10:36 ` Artur Malabarba [not found] ` <<83oaebkybx.fsf@gnu.org> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2015-11-30 20:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: bruce.connor.am; +Cc: emacs-diffs, emacs-devel > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 19:58:52 +0000 > From: Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com> > Cc: emacs-diffs@gnu.org > > 2015-11-30 17:31 GMT+00:00 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>: > > + The word search commands cannot > > +support lax whitespace matching (@pxref{Lax Search}). > > Really? I could have sworn they can. > > Maybe we should fix this then. Because word-isearch does support > lax-whitespace AFAIR. I tried. Maybe I made a mistake. Can you show an example where it does? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: emacs-25 3e9ac80: Yet another doc improvement for search commands 2015-11-30 20:48 ` [Emacs-diffs] " Eli Zaretskii @ 2015-12-01 10:36 ` Artur Malabarba 2015-12-01 15:37 ` [Emacs-diffs] " Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Artur Malabarba @ 2015-12-01 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-diffs, emacs-devel 2015-11-30 20:48 GMT+00:00 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>: >> Really? I could have sworn they can. > I tried. Maybe I made a mistake. Can you show an example where it > does? I wasn't sure earlier, but yes, they do. Just type "a b" in a buffer and do `word-search-forward' for "a b". ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 3e9ac80: Yet another doc improvement for search commands 2015-12-01 10:36 ` Artur Malabarba @ 2015-12-01 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii 2015-12-01 18:05 ` Artur Malabarba 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2015-12-01 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: bruce.connor.am; +Cc: emacs-devel > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 10:36:59 +0000 > From: Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com> > Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, emacs-diffs@gnu.org > > >> Really? I could have sworn they can. > > I tried. Maybe I made a mistake. Can you show an example where it > > does? > > I wasn't sure earlier, but yes, they do. > > Just type "a b" in a buffer and do `word-search-forward' for "a b". That's not because of lax-space matching, IIUC. That's because word search ignores any non-word characters between words. What I meant is this: C-s M-s w a b M-s SPC After you type the "M-s SPC" toggle, Emacs says "[match spaces literally]", but "a b" etc. are still highlighted as matches. Maybe we should add a note that, although lax-whitespace matching is not supported with word search, it is also not needed, because spaces between words are ignored anyway? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 3e9ac80: Yet another doc improvement for search commands 2015-12-01 15:37 ` [Emacs-diffs] " Eli Zaretskii @ 2015-12-01 18:05 ` Artur Malabarba 2015-12-01 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Artur Malabarba @ 2015-12-01 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 578 bytes --] On 1 Dec 2015 3:37 pm, "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > Maybe we should add a note that, although lax-whitespace matching is > not supported with word search, it is also not needed, because spaces > between words are ignored anyway? Yes. We shouldn't say it can't do lax-whitespace, cause the reality is that it can't NOT do lax-whitespace. We can either say nothing, or say something like: The word search commands don't perform character folding and are not affected by lax whitespace matching (since they ignore the spaces between words anyway, @pxref{Lax Search}). [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 719 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 3e9ac80: Yet another doc improvement for search commands 2015-12-01 18:05 ` Artur Malabarba @ 2015-12-01 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii 2015-12-01 20:04 ` Artur Malabarba 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2015-12-01 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: bruce.connor.am; +Cc: emacs-devel > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 18:05:54 +0000 > From: Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com> > Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org> > > On 1 Dec 2015 3:37 pm, "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org> wrote: > > Maybe we should add a note that, although lax-whitespace matching is > > not supported with word search, it is also not needed, because spaces > > between words are ignored anyway? > > Yes. We shouldn't say it can't do lax-whitespace, cause the reality is that it > can't NOT do lax-whitespace. > > We can either say nothing, or say something like: > The word search commands don't perform character folding and are not affected > by lax whitespace matching (since they ignore the spaces between words anyway, > @pxref{Lax Search}). I said instead that lax-whitespace matching has no effect on these commands. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 3e9ac80: Yet another doc improvement for search commands 2015-12-01 19:30 ` Eli Zaretskii @ 2015-12-01 20:04 ` Artur Malabarba 2015-12-01 21:06 ` Drew Adams 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Artur Malabarba @ 2015-12-01 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 13 bytes --] Sounds good. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 31 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* RE: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 3e9ac80: Yet another doc improvement for search commands 2015-12-01 20:04 ` Artur Malabarba @ 2015-12-01 21:06 ` Drew Adams 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Drew Adams @ 2015-12-01 21:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: bruce.connor.am, Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: emacs-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 390 bytes --] FWIW, this is a message that doesn't mean a whole lot to me. No idea what sounds good. But I'm glad something does. ;-) From: Artur Malabarba [mailto:bruce.connor.am@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 12:04 PM To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: emacs-devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 3e9ac80: Yet another doc improvement for search commands Sounds good. [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3128 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* RE: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 3e9ac80: Yet another doc improvement for search commands [not found] ` <<83oaebkybx.fsf@gnu.org> @ 2015-11-30 21:47 ` Drew Adams 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Drew Adams @ 2015-11-30 21:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eli Zaretskii, bruce.connor.am; +Cc: emacs-diffs, emacs-devel > > > + The word search commands cannot > > > +support lax whitespace matching (@pxref{Lax Search}). > > > > Really? I could have sworn they can. > > > > Maybe we should fix this then. Because word-isearch does support > > lax-whitespace AFAIR. > > I tried. Maybe I made a mistake. Can you show an example where it > does? Check the doc, to see what behavior to expect. ;-) (just kidding) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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