From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: UP and DOWN with multi-line minibuffer history Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 05:39:32 +0200 Message-ID: <83d1u94s23.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83wpsj6978.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4czz63l.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83lh8y5q3k.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1u9vqni.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1450064384 3189 80.91.229.3 (14 Dec 2015 03:39:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 03:39:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 14 04:39:40 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a8Jz9-0003Uo-1f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:39:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57616 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8Jz8-0000Af-AU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 22:39:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33727) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8Jyv-0000AV-QC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 22:39:26 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8Jyr-0002PW-5i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 22:39:25 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50526) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a8Jyr-0002PS-2y; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 22:39:21 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4134 helo=HOME-C4E4A596F7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1a8Jyq-00083k-FK; Sun, 13 Dec 2015 22:39:20 -0500 In-reply-to: <87d1u9vqni.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Mon, 14 Dec 2015 02:07:45 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196234 Archived-At: > From: Juri Linkov > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 02:07:45 +0200 > > So the question at hand can be considered as Consistency vs. Convenience, > i.e. trying to achieve consistency at the cost of losing convenience. Yes, it's consistency vs minor inconvenience in certain use cases. I think consistency should win big time. > Jumping to the last screen line can be achieved by exchanging just two lines > in next-line-or-history-element and previous-line-or-history-element: > moving ‘(goto-char (minibuffer-prompt-end))’ to the former, and exchanging > it with ‘(goto-char (point-max))’ from the latter. > > I invite you and everyone interested to try this change for a few days > to see its real effect. I think we should install such a change and see if there are any complaints. Several people already agreed with my suggestion for how it should work. Thanks.