From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Towards a WYSIWYG word processing (was: What improvements would be truly useful?) Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 19:18:43 +0200 Message-ID: <83d10freh8.fsf@gnu.org> References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1520443059 7443 195.159.176.226 (7 Mar 2018 17:17:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 17:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: johnw@gnu.org, daniele@grinta.net, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: John Yates Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 07 18:17:34 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1etcgh-0006zO-32 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:17:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34555 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etcij-0006LP-JO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 12:19:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57796) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etciX-0006Jl-3z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 12:19:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etciW-0004GJ-60 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 12:19:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42807) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etciQ-0004D9-NT; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 12:18:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2820 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1etciJ-0000se-DD; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 12:18:52 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from John Yates on Tue, 6 Mar 2018 16:45:56 -0500) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:223409 Archived-At: > From: John Yates > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 16:45:56 -0500 > Cc: John Wiegley , daniele@grinta.net, > Emacs developers > > Today Emacs is able to understand the structure of the text in a > buffer based on its mode (either because the contents is created and > maintained entirely by elisp code or because the mode knows how to > parse the buffer's contents). Given such understanding the mode can > then do an intelligent job refilling, reformatting and rendering. > > Until Emacs has some way of modeling the structure of a text document > I doubt that we will see any significant uptake in its use a > LibreOffice replacement. I think you have in mind much more sophisticated word processor than it would take to make significant progress in this area relative to what we have now. Extending enriched.el to do a few things it currently can't will already be a huge step forward, in that it will allow users who want that to produce reasonably pretty documents in Emacs, send enriched/text emails, etc.