From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A couple of questions and concerns about Emacs network security Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 05:44:39 +0300 Message-ID: <83d0vyigyw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20180705093346.071e6970@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83wou9n66t.fsf@gnu.org> <20180705112920.076265d5@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83r2khms1j.fsf@gnu.org> <20180705164500.0bde16cd@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83bmbknafs.fsf@gnu.org> <20180707081833.37561702@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83zhz3i3o3.fsf@gnu.org> <20180707094622.6eff25bf@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <83tvpbi0zv.fsf@gnu.org> <20180707112544.6a2b92c2@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1531017772 26827 195.159.176.226 (8 Jul 2018 02:42:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 02:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org, wyuenho@gmail.com, perry@piermont.com To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 08 04:42:47 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fbzex-0006rJ-80 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 04:42:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35710 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbzh4-0006N8-C8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 22:44:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49408) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbzgr-0006Md-QX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 22:44:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbzgn-0006r6-FR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 22:44:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60408) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fbzgn-0006qu-Bf; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 22:44:41 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2023 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fbzgg-0002O1-97; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 22:44:34 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Sat, 07 Jul 2018 19:46:49 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:227088 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 19:46:49 -0400 > Cc: wyuenho@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, larsi@gnus.org, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Here is an idea. Let's implement the browser-like security in master > as an option disabled by default. Then Eli and others can try it out > for a few weeks and report each inconvenience. > > Then we will see how much, or how little, inconvenience results from > this mode of operation. I think the plan is to enable that by default on master, which I think is even better, since more people will be able to test it.