From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode as default Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 21:49:48 +0300 Message-ID: <83d0tfkj77.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k1nxvm5j.fsf@gnu.org> <87sh2ih0bp.fsf@fastmail.fm> <770f48a8-664a-40ae-8e03-19f6aad248b6@default> <20180910181615.GA4829@ACM> <874lev3bq4.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20180912131602.GA5582@ACM> <87d0tihxzw.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20180913174640.GB4019@ACM> <8736udkuit.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20180914104833.GA4103@ACM> <83k1nojgia.fsf@gnu.org> <7bed1f76-5bae-44cb-9b22-206b513043be@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536950987 12733 195.159.176.226 (14 Sep 2018 18:49:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 18:49:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hw@adminart.net, spacibba@aol.com, joostkremers@fastmail.fm, npostavs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, yurivkhan@gmail.com, acm@muc.de, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 14 20:49:42 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g0t9w-00039g-PZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 20:49:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52969 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0tC2-0001Tc-UL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:51:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42255) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0tBO-0001TW-Dp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:51:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0tBK-00049v-HR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:51:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52429) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1g0tAF-0002uC-JG; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:49:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2273 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1g0tAF-00010G-4G; Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:49:59 -0400 In-reply-to: <7bed1f76-5bae-44cb-9b22-206b513043be@default> (message from Drew Adams on Fri, 14 Sep 2018 08:23:31 -0700 (PDT)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229793 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 08:23:31 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: acm@muc.de, hw@adminart.net, spacibba@aol.com, joostkremers@fastmail.fm, > npostavs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk > > Users can trivially control which of the 5 behaviors to use for > a given command, just by putting a property on the command > symbol. Putting properties on symbols to change the behavior of a command is not user-level customization. IOW, we are miscommunicating. > There's no difficulty "reconciling" d-s-m with the "other > uses" of the region that you cite. None whatsoever. > You've shown none, AFAICT. No trick is needed. It just > works. This whole thread makes it acutely clear that there is a problem. And your message actually agrees with me towards the end.