From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: menu-bar-help-menu Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 09:51:08 +0200 Message-ID: <83d0r5795f.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20181116.132016.345008228744400751.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1542354596 18755 195.159.176.226 (16 Nov 2018 07:49:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 07:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tak Kunihiro Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 16 08:49:52 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gNYsx-0004kj-CN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 08:49:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42559 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNYv3-00044g-SZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 02:52:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53762) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNYuE-0003Yy-U1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 02:51:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNYuB-0005h2-2s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 02:51:10 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53142) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gNYuA-0005gt-VO; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 02:51:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2075 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1gNYu8-0006sD-Ro; Fri, 16 Nov 2018 02:51:06 -0500 In-reply-to: <20181116.132016.345008228744400751.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> (message from Tak Kunihiro on Fri, 16 Nov 2018 13:20:16 +0900 (JST)) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:231180 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 13:20:16 +0900 (JST) > From: Tak Kunihiro > Cc: tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp > > I often find help menu to be very useful. I think the word "Emacs" is > too often shown up in the help menu. Most of "Emacs" in the help menu > could be taken out to read better. I propose the new help menu as > shown below. FWIW, I think removing "Emacs" from these items will make their intent less clear. I also don't understand how their presence can make the items less readable, can you explain?