From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Phil Sainty <psainty@orcon.net.nz>
Cc: mithraeum@protonmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Performance degradation from long lines
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 12:56:58 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83d0ie1clx.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1a2d94be-a73a-7934-4ce8-5b3c4e819645@orcon.net.nz> (message from Phil Sainty on Sat, 13 Jul 2019 21:33:19 +1200)
> Cc: mithraeum@protonmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Phil Sainty <psainty@orcon.net.nz>
> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 21:33:19 +1200
>
> On 13/07/19 8:07 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > One comment I have is that disabling bidi-display-reordering should
> > probably be removed from the defaults, because doing so puts the
> > display engine in a state that is not being tested, and can cause
> > inconsistencies and even bugs (because some portions of the code
> > were written under the assumption that this variable is never nil).
> >
> > OTOH, I'd suggest setting bidi-paragraph-direction to 'left-to-right
> > by default when so-long-mode is turned on.
>
> That sounds good to me. I wasn't aware that nil was an invalid value
> for bidi-display-reordering.
It isn't invalid. It is useful for debugging the display code, but
using it in production session is dangerous, because it causes the
code to execute control-flow paths that aren't supported in
general-purpose usage.
> > Also, I don't understand why the defaults disable
> > display-line-number-mode, it AFAIK does not slow down redisplay in
> > any significant ways. Do you have any evidence it should be
> > disabled in buffers with long lines?
>
> No, I'd simply included it along with the older line-numbering minor
> modes. I believe I can see a *very* slight difference, depending on
> the state of display-line-number-mode, when moving around the visual
> lines in a ~1MB line; however it's not significant, so I don't object
> to removing it from the list.
In my measurements, the slow down is about 10% or less.
> I'm not sure that there's a benefit to the end-user in having line-
> numbering enabled in such a file, though (which was the other reason
> I went ahead and added all of those modes).
Log files is one important use case where line numbers might be of
benefit.
> > IME, truncate-lines sometimes makes display of long lines _faster_,
> > so I'm not sure we should disable that by default.
>
> This should stay. The combination of truncate-lines being disabled
> and line-move-visual being enabled is a tremendous benefit when the
> user tries to move vertically from an extremely long line to the next
> line.
If it's the combination that matters, I suggest to mention that in the
documentation (doc string, perhaps?), as I don't think this will be
otherwise evident.
Thanks.
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[not found] ` <20190107065208.BA36C21736@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2019-01-10 18:07 ` [Emacs-diffs] scratch/so-long 7273fb2: Add so-long library Stefan Monnier
2019-01-12 2:20 ` Phil Sainty
2019-01-12 15:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-01-12 21:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-14 13:09 ` Phil Sainty
2019-04-14 15:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-14 22:33 ` Phil Sainty
2019-06-27 13:46 ` Performance degradation from long lines Phil Sainty
2019-07-06 14:18 ` Phil Sainty
2019-07-13 8:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-13 9:07 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-07-13 9:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-13 10:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-07-13 10:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-13 10:38 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-07-13 10:58 ` Phil Sainty
2019-07-13 11:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-13 11:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-13 9:33 ` Phil Sainty
2019-07-13 9:56 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-07-13 13:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-13 13:43 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-07-13 14:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-13 14:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-13 18:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-13 22:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-14 5:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-15 13:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-07-18 6:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-18 14:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-18 17:11 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-07-18 18:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-07-18 18:33 ` Andy Moreton
2018-10-24 23:59 mithraeum
2018-10-25 0:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-25 15:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-25 15:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-25 3:26 ` Phil Sainty
2018-10-25 12:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-25 13:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-25 13:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-25 15:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-25 22:34 ` Phil Sainty
2018-10-26 6:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 12:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-27 8:38 ` Phil Sainty
2018-10-27 15:32 ` Drew Adams
2018-10-28 1:51 ` Phil Sainty
2018-10-28 1:58 ` Drew Adams
2018-10-27 22:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-12-08 23:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-12-09 14:40 ` Phil Sainty
2018-12-30 4:07 ` Phil Sainty
2019-01-12 1:03 ` Phil Sainty
2019-01-12 11:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-10 10:22 ` Phil Sainty
2019-03-10 12:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-10 13:36 ` martin rudalics
2019-03-10 13:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-10 23:16 ` Phil Sainty
2019-03-10 18:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-03-11 9:14 ` martin rudalics
2019-03-10 23:31 ` Phil Sainty
2019-03-11 3:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-03-11 3:48 ` Phil Sainty
2019-03-11 14:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 1:46 ` mithraeum
2018-10-26 2:39 ` Phil Sainty
2018-10-26 2:58 ` mithraeum
2018-10-26 4:43 ` Phil Sainty
2018-10-26 5:54 ` mithraeum
2018-10-26 2:54 ` Phil Sainty
2018-10-26 15:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-27 3:10 ` Phil Sainty
2018-10-27 22:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-12-30 5:23 ` Phil Sainty
2018-10-28 2:03 ` Phil Sainty
2018-10-25 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-25 17:18 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-10-25 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 0:59 ` mithraeum
2018-10-26 6:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 7:00 ` Ihor Radchenko
2018-10-26 7:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 7:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2018-10-26 7:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 8:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2018-10-26 8:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 8:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
2018-10-26 9:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 9:46 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-10-26 12:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 15:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-26 9:52 ` mithraeum
2018-10-26 8:05 ` mithraeum
2018-10-26 16:05 ` Gemini Lasswell
2018-10-31 13:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2018-10-31 15:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-25 17:53 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-10-25 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-25 19:17 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2018-10-26 6:40 ` mithraeum
2018-10-26 7:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 7:47 ` mithraeum
2018-10-26 8:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 8:56 ` mithraeum
2018-10-26 9:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-10-26 15:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-26 15:34 ` Alexander Shukaev
2018-10-26 16:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-26 16:50 ` Alexander Shukaev
2018-10-26 17:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-10-27 2:09 ` Phil Sainty
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