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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Improve reporting of I/O, access errors for Emacs
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 21:04:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83d0g51jdp.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ffc7396d-0a95-6a36-6591-3b200458cac5@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Thu, 12 Sep 2019 01:22:09 -0700)

> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2019 01:22:09 -0700
> 
> The basic idea is that Emacs should signal an error for serious and
> unexpected I/O errors (e.g., EIO, ENAMETOOLONG)

Why is that a good idea in general?  Emacs should do that when it
needs to operate on a file (like copy or rename or delete it), but
cannot due to some I/O error, that's a given.  But if Emacs just needs
to return some information about a file, and the file turns out to be
inaccessible, why do we need to signal an error instead of just
returning a failure indication?

IOW, I think your changes cause error signaling on too low a level,
where we cannot know whether signaling an error is or isn't a Good
Thing.  We should instead have such logic on higher levels, where the
semantics and the meaning of errors are clear.  Otherwise, we risk
breaking a lot of code which will suddenly need to deal with errors it
never saw before.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-12 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-12  8:22 Improve reporting of I/O, access errors for Emacs Paul Eggert
2019-09-12 18:04 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-09-12 18:27   ` Paul Eggert
2019-09-12 19:34     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-12 20:32       ` Paul Eggert
2019-09-13  7:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-18  2:25           ` Paul Eggert
2019-09-18  9:50             ` Richard Copley
2019-09-16 11:07 ` Richard Copley
2019-09-16 14:53   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-16 18:11     ` Richard Copley

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