From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default emacs init file location confusion Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2020 20:07:24 +0200 Message-ID: <83d0btbz4z.fsf@gnu.org> References: <837e23chdm.fsf@gnu.org> <834kx7cgmh.fsf@gnu.org> <87tv56bjop.fsf@gmail.com> <539DBEA2-E758-4CB0-B886-F908CF0525B6@gnu.org> <83pnfuaqj3.fsf@gnu.org> <83imllc3iq.fsf@gnu.org> <87eew9q4rt.fsf@windriver.com> <83h815c26h.fsf@gnu.org> <83ftgpc0m1.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="223935"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: matthewzmd@gmail.com, smartlitchi@gmail.com, lokedhs@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 08 19:10:03 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ipFm0-000fHB-UM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 19:09:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47662 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ipFlz-0003gn-K8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 13:09:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60297) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ipFjd-0001KN-UC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 13:07:14 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:42466) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ipFjd-0002wC-KS; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 13:07:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1265 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ipFjc-0004M3-Qy; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 13:07:13 -0500 In-reply-to: (message from Robert Pluim on Wed, 08 Jan 2020 18:44:33 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:244140 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2020 18:44:33 +0100 > Cc: matthewzmd@gmail.com, smartlitchi@gmail.com, lokedhs@gmail.com, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Eli> But such accident was exactly what started this discussion. So > Eli> evidently the probability of that happening is higher than we assume. > > Not really. *emacs* created that directory, not the user, and thatʼs > exactly what weʼre trying to prevent (well, I am :-) ). It could still happen again, with another Emacs version. > Eli> The advantage of the latter is that it's fully backward-compatible. > > It is, but 'use this new thing only if you create it' is pretty > unsurprising as well, weʼre not going to stop using .emacs.d and force > people to use ~/.config/emacs. Sorry, I'm unconvinced. Let me put it this way: why should we prefer XDG just because the directory exists, but not prefer ~/.emacs.d when that one exists?