From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: message-mode toolbars, was: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Fri, 01 May 2020 09:18:05 +0300 Message-ID: <83d07ow542.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8wXYP4GY9hwW-9mYv6_LGMETZ8Vz3Ob1Bec6yh6kPT7yxjTkxA3V6dXY4ELra9tYiJUxJmgXKSIEX4w8HFiPRoeGVSQHDSoBVy1voj1e3Qo=@protonmail.com> <83imhzecc5.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2qvcjv6.fsf@gnu.org> <83k12ed20s.fsf@gnu.org> <83blnqctyj.fsf@gnu.org> <9341072a-cf53-9092-2211-aa97c946e5b1@yandex.ru> <838sinfygb.fsf@gnu.org> <16fad982-e95b-7df1-25d0-1c666a6f8120@gmail.com> <83tv1begq5.fsf@gnu.org> <279c7ae5-b6c4-827b-393f-9ab34fbda81a@yandex.ru> <87v9lh38f1.fsf@gnus.org> <83o8r8x17g.fsf@gnu.org> <6ac5ab30-d37a-e91b-15c1-2cdf570bdafe@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="53802"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, cpitclaudel@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 01 08:19:05 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jUP0r-000DtU-64 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 08:19:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40540 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUP0q-0004Dj-8O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 02:19:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44584) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUP06-0003ee-KV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 01 May 2020 02:18:18 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:38268) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUP06-0005va-BT; Fri, 01 May 2020 02:18:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2079 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jUP04-0001YJ-LV; Fri, 01 May 2020 02:18:17 -0400 In-Reply-To: <6ac5ab30-d37a-e91b-15c1-2cdf570bdafe@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 1 May 2020 02:57:59 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248293 Archived-At: > Cc: larsi@gnus.org, cpitclaudel@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Fri, 1 May 2020 02:57:59 +0300 > > On 30.04.2020 21:44, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > I don't think we should change look-and-feel during a pretest, sorry. > > These are sensitive issues that tend to trigger emotions, so we should > > let them live on master for some time before we release them. > > Pardon me for insistence, but I've filed bug#40990. Thanks, I replied there. > Perhaps we could see if there's any negative feedback at all? I'd like to avoid waiting for feedback on this, so that Emacs 27.1 could be released sooner rather than later.