From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: transient Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 15:04:44 +0300 Message-ID: <83d07mtueb.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87368npxw4.fsf@bernoul.li> <87v9ljo5d0.fsf@bernoul.li> <87ftcnxu5m.fsf@bernoul.li> <83y2qezlpd.fsf@gnu.org> <83tv12zjx1.fsf@gnu.org> <20200429101755.GF24737@tuxteam.de> <838sicw4do.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhaqu89z.fsf@gnu.org> <83sggiu2p9.fsf@gnu.org> <83k11utxn7.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="82505"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philippe Vaucher Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 02 14:05:42 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jUqtq-000LOQ-4C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 14:05:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55626 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUqtp-0004AQ-74 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 08:05:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53242) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUqtB-0003VV-Su for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 May 2020 08:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:55747) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jUqtB-0007Qn-Bw; Sat, 02 May 2020 08:05:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4108 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jUqt2-0008JG-GI; Sat, 02 May 2020 08:04:53 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Philippe Vaucher on Sat, 2 May 2020 13:47:35 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248411 Archived-At: > From: Philippe Vaucher > Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 13:47:35 +0200 > Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, Richard Stallman , Emacs developers > > > My point is that "C-h d alist" is not sufficient to find assq or assoc, thus while a useful tool it's not very > > efficient. > > You don't know me very well, do you? Try "C-h d alist" in a recent > development snapshot, and I think you will see those functions there. > I fixed that within 5 minutes of your saying that those functions > couldn't be found by "C-h d". > > So, my point *was* valid two days ago. How many other topics of Emacs are still affected tho? I don't know. I can promise that each topic that will be reported with similar issues will be fixed very quickly. > I think by now you should already know the answer. I have the ELisp > manual open in a dedicated frame at all times, and I consult it all > the time. I use "C-h f" only if I think I know the function's name > quite accurately, and the same with "C-h v" and variables. > > I'll try this for a while and see how it goes. Thanks.