From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: dash.el [was: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs] Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 18:01:21 +0300 Message-ID: <83d06y7iri.fsf@gnu.org> References: <0c88192c-3c33-46ed-95cb-b4c6928016e3@default> <873686bbl5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87d07963ec.fsf@fastmail.fm> <873685dq73.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87wo5gc0kb.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87lflv5yzx.fsf@bernoul.li> <433E8CA0-CC87-4877-B9D4-D348531B73F8@medranocalvo.com> <87lflsyfwu.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87r1vgsu7c.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <87pnb0roem.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <878shm4s9f.fsf@gkayaalp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="48896"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: jonas@bernoul.li, rms@gnu.org, joostkremers@fastmail.fm, adrian@medranocalvo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, self@gkayaalp.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, ohwoeowho@gmail.com To: =?utf-8?B?R8O2a3R1xJ8=?= Kayaalp Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 20 17:02:57 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jbQFF-000CV0-IX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 17:02:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42976 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbQFE-0001IG-JQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 11:02:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34982) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbQE8-0008Rt-OE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 11:01:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:50847) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbQE7-0005fK-Ba; Wed, 20 May 2020 11:01:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4427 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jbQDi-0005ce-4W; Wed, 20 May 2020 11:01:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <878shm4s9f.fsf@gkayaalp.com> (message from =?utf-8?B?R8O2?= =?utf-8?B?a3R1xJ8=?= Kayaalp on Wed, 20 May 2020 17:04:28 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251063 Archived-At: > From: Göktuğ Kayaalp > Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 17:04:28 +0300 > Cc: jonas@bernoul.li, Richard Stallman , joostkremers@fastmail.fm, > adrian@medranocalvo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, ohwoeowho@gmail.com, > Göktuğ Kayaalp , > Phillip Lord > > > On 2020-05-19 18:52 +03, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > We don't disagree on the advantages and disadvantages. We just disagree > > on the respective weight we put on them. > > :thumbs-up: > > ⁂ > > I wonder what’s the final say on this. AFAIU y’all are not keen on > merging this. Or is it still up for discussion? There’s a nice patch > by Adrián I’ll be merging soon which removes the dash dependency and > fixes a few problems. I think the only proposal on the table that has real chances to be acceptable by most of us is to split ELPA into two, whether internally (i.e. separate directories or something similar) or externally (i.e. 2 different repositories). If there's no significant opposition to this, I hope we can start actually doing that. Then s.el, dash.el, and other similar packages can be put in the "non-core" part of ELPA without any significant changes.