From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How are the defaults chosen? Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2020 17:25:30 +0300 Message-ID: <83d02vkox1.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10871"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: thibaut.verron@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 09 16:26:35 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kG13T-0002gx-NG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 16:26:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45370 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kG13S-0003TB-NT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 10:26:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50342) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kG12f-000209-3Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 10:25:45 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:35349) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kG12d-0004cf-D7; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 10:25:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1438 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kG12R-0007eC-Lj; Wed, 09 Sep 2020 10:25:40 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Thibaut Verron on Wed, 9 Sep 2020 10:02:15 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254870 Archived-At: > From: Thibaut Verron > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 10:02:15 +0200 > > I'm not trying to start a new discussion on each one of those defaults, > but are there clear guidelines on what makes a default value better > than another? No, no guidelines, just a lot of common sense and some discussions here and there. > Or is it just a dozen individual discussions, sometimes resulting in > a new default, and in all other cases the default is whichever option > appeared first? Yes. > If the latter, maybe spending time to agree on or decree such guidelines, > at the same time as on how to change the defaults in the least > disruptive way possible (already in progress) would help both with > the current and the inevitable future discussions? How probable is the success of such a discussion, do you think? We cannot even agree on specific options, and here you suggest to take this disagreement to a much higher and abstract level.