From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:49:07 +0300 Message-ID: <83d02sfh58.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20200910231420.kvqg6ohvxetpup5c.ref@Ergus> <20200910231420.kvqg6ohvxetpup5c@Ergus> <875z8lhz3p.fsf@gmail.com> <83tuw4hkad.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuw4flzy.fsf@gnu.org> <83h7s4fier.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16643"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, rpluim@gmail.com, caiohcs0@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rekado@elephly.net, ghe@sdf.org, drew.adams@oracle.com To: thibaut.verron@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 11 17:49:55 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGlJD-0004Cq-CM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 17:49:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52968 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGlJC-0000w7-B7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:49:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50334) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGlIX-0000Sb-5r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:49:13 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41743) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGlIV-00027s-NA; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:49:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1905 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kGlIV-0001F6-1n; Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:49:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Thibaut Verron on Fri, 11 Sep 2020 17:36:24 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255209 Archived-At: > From: Thibaut Verron > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 17:36:24 +0200 > Cc: rpluim@gmail.com, spacibba@aol.com, caiohcs0@gmail.com, > emacs-devel@gnu.org, rekado@elephly.net, ghe@sdf.org, drew.adams@oracle.com > > "Other applications" mostly don't support buffers with no associated > files, so we had to make a decision which of these two to use. Since > those other applications force you to decide on exit whether to save > your edits or not, we decided it was more like what Emacs does with > buffers that do visit files. > > Don't they? As far as I can remember, Libreoffice does, MS office does, Notepad does... > > They call it "new document" rather than "new file" for this reason, I guess. And ask you where to save it when you exit. That's what Emacs does with file-visiting buffers. > Maybe this button could be bound to a function creating a new buffer with a name like *unnamed[-n]*, and > also mark these buffers for query for save on exit? AFAIR, that was considered. Maybe you want to read those old discussions.