From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: policy discussion on bundling ELPA packages in the emacs tarball Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 15:38:17 +0200 Message-ID: <83czxpyyeu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86eeifawx8.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <87czxygdl9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86tur88izp.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <86h7n880lo.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83y2gk3rin.fsf@gnu.org> <86o8he6y4k.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <8335yq4350.fsf@gnu.org> <86k0s26qqt.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83sg6q2is5.fsf@gnu.org> <7d85c33d-5f9c-e4b4-c37a-121bee411465@yandex.ru> <86o8hc65js.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83mtwv21qj.fsf@gnu.org> <8635ym5tu2.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <83r1m6z6x8.fsf@gnu.org> <86eei553c0.fsf@stephe-leake.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19880"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Stephen Leake Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 28 14:38:48 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l57VV-00053X-Vk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 14:38:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52660 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l57VV-0004Mx-0z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 08:38:45 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55706) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l57Ur-0003uK-7l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 08:38:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:41993) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l57Up-00038W-0Y; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 08:38:03 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4026 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1l57Uo-0001Nk-Ci; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 08:38:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: <86eei553c0.fsf@stephe-leake.org> (message from Stephen Leake on Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:10:07 -0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263546 Archived-At: > From: Stephen Leake > Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:10:07 -0800 > > >> However, if you then make changes in that merged branch (which we > >> definitely want to support), it is not simple to propagate them back to > >> the separate branches; you have to cherry-pick. > > > > I don't think we want to maintain the bundled packages inside the > > Emacs repository. IOW, the flow of changes should be unidirectional: > > from elpa.git to emacs.git, but not in the other direction. > > As a rule, yes. But part of the point of doing this via git is allow > occasional edits in the emacs source tree, and have those edits > propagate back to the upstream. If that can be easily supported without sacrificing anything important, fine. But it isn't a requirement, at least not from my POV. > For emacs developers that do not also have a local elpa repository, > that's the only way to fix a bug in a bundled package for a release. I think any Emacs developer who wants to contribute to ELPA should have an elpa.git checkout locally.