From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gitlab Migration Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2021 15:45:12 +0300 Message-ID: <83czppygiv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87h7fcnmq0.fsf@posteo.net> <83tujbqg4j.fsf@gnu.org> <46353190-1190-495f-b15e-22980159b3ab@yandex.ru> <83y28mp0rb.fsf@gnu.org> <51a363db-fde7-791d-cf8d-98ac601d62ee@yandex.ru> <57ca4d78-2339-201d-edce-678c9b003a99@yandex.ru> <01341bd6-b94b-4f94-1461-405e723142ad@yandex.ru> <8735qmjklm.fsf@localhost> <87ilzi86h7.fsf@posteo.net> <875yvh9anq.fsf@posteo.net> <83o899yjh2.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0jxyhbn.fsf@gnu.org> <05217332-4d76-83a6-06a6-3ddae942dd12@yandex.ru> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13999"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, danflscr@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, lokedhs@gmail.com, yantar92@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 03 14:46:40 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mM8ac-0003QW-Hc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 03 Sep 2021 14:46:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44678 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mM8ab-0008Fi-1z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 03 Sep 2021 08:46:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41596) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mM8Zf-0007UN-Lh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Sep 2021 08:45:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:40742) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mM8Zd-0000Q5-UT; Fri, 03 Sep 2021 08:45:37 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:2453 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mM8ZH-00089P-Gi; Fri, 03 Sep 2021 08:45:23 -0400 In-Reply-To: <05217332-4d76-83a6-06a6-3ddae942dd12@yandex.ru> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Fri, 3 Sep 2021 15:32:10 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:273791 Archived-At: > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2021 15:32:10 +0300 > Cc: philipk@posteo.net, danflscr@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, lokedhs@gmail.com, > yantar92@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > > On 03.09.2021 15:27, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >>> There, you have already a list of options to include in a suitably > >>> named "profile". Why not add that to Emacs right now? > >> What would it be called? > > I don't know, but I don't think the name is the main issue. The main > > issue is to identify the settings many people would like to change, > > then try to group them in some reasonable way. > > It *is* an issue. It's an issue, but not the most important or urgent one. > The problem with variables with indent-tabs-mode and > require-final-newline is they affect Emacs's behavior in ways that > aren't apparent to a new user, or to a beginner programmer. And then > they can cause problems for the teammates who aren't even using Emacs. > > Having a profile unassumingly called "Dmitry Gutov's Preferences" (who > would want to enable THAT, right?), which would need to be enabled to > avoid these issues, is a usability problem. I'd start by collecting the relevant settings. E.g., if those 4 are the only ones, or close to that, then perhaps a single profile named "convenience" or somesuch would be enough. But I suspect there are many more, so we'd need to divide them into groups, and then name each group accordingly.