From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: More reliable byte compilation, take 45 Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2021 18:41:21 +0300 Message-ID: <83czoj4gym.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sfxhm5aw.fsf@gnus.org> <9bffb61b-c948-c431-4fb0-bbc74e91dfe2@gmail.com> <837des6479.fsf@gnu.org> <831r506025.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1cz4rjl.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33461"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: cpitclaudel@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, raman@google.com To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 05 17:47:51 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mXmfW-0008XJ-M9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 17:47:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33450 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXmfV-0007gv-Hq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 11:47:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40666) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXmZS-0007wV-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 11:41:34 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43868) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXmZR-00066J-Dj; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 11:41:33 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:4793 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mXmZP-0001MV-NG; Tue, 05 Oct 2021 11:41:32 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 05 Oct 2021 09:27:24 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276342 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: raman@google.com, cpitclaudel@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2021 09:27:24 -0400 > > > And that's all? Then why not fix that problem right away, it sounds > > like something that should be easy to fix. (Though I'm not sure I > > understand why "some other ELisp file was not loaded beforehand" -- is > > that a case of a missing 'require' or 'eval-when-compile' or somesuch?) > > Often the problem is with packages where you basically have to load > all/most the files before you can call any of its functions (because of > mutual dependencies between the files) and where the authors never > compile the code or only ever compile the code from a running session > where the files have already been loaded. Wouldn't local no-native-compile be the proper solutions for those files?