From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abysmal state of GTK build Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 20:33:22 +0300 Message-ID: <83czcs9o9p.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ilmlluxq.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <87ilmlluxq.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h725olz1.fsf@gnus.org> <8735dplo5d.fsf@yahoo.com> <87zgfxlnw3.fsf@gnus.org> <87h725k8ze.fsf@yahoo.com> <87edx9ln65.fsf@gnus.org> <874jy5k80y.fsf@yahoo.com> <875yillm64.fsf@gnus.org> <87edx9ist0.fsf@yahoo.com> <874jy5gjoi.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wnb0bnmn.fsf@gnus.org> <87tu64ec1w.fsf@yahoo.com> <875yik8pb6.fsf@gnus.org> <87bksceaqu.fsf@yahoo.com> <87czcs79l8.fsf@gnus.org> <87wnb0ctf0.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15658"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, gregory@heytings.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 22 21:22:52 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oQD0d-0003ry-Kl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 21:22:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32900 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQD0b-0001oW-19 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 15:22:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41622) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQBIf-0004br-9d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 13:33:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44766) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQBIe-0002lr-NE; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 13:33:20 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=sNvLmMRvheCKbyWbWjcPvND5IEZVgaXy17P372abagc=; b=ST+XDyUlw/uG vG7tJGS5Q42XyTRz/zjY8ULXON4oR30Li7TRvO7kN4YILyfAmAChoQtn/2Rdkj/HuyD9moqRZXZOn zmUp77Ru9wN0P30LbQKMZ1+7LFlsvPL/w3hjdRgZFZqSZNIltB5FO6dtq9shkE+RkVTCT3MCZLYM6 OiDgqwD02fP4c5wrqh88Q4PYpqVm8lVSA8+nxz5HLQiQAQ8BnQ0wsDVB/rBhMVDuf+S8UIRRv3lvN phweLHSNrxcetZDolZ2FVOhR0b2fSZPD7PKdtZBdXaSvlWW3MSLLbG/D6mPTAQc8VXLvTG8YvbUtH qxVHsDFLUHdSx+PKJioXtg==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1528 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oQBId-0008RL-51; Mon, 22 Aug 2022 13:33:19 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87wnb0ctf0.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Mon, 22 Aug 2022 21:13:55 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293814 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: Gregory Heytings , emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2022 21:13:55 +0800 > > Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > > > I feel like I'm repeating myself here a lot now. So to recap: > > > > 1) The crash under a Gtk build should be fixed -- in any case, no matter > > what else we do. If that means disabling XInput 2 under Gtk, that's fine. > > It's not fine. Because once that happens, people will stop using the > XInput 2 build (since it will no longer be the default) I don't understand: don't the non-GTK builds also support XInput2? If so, and if we make one of those non-GTK builds the default, people will still have an XInput2 build, just not a GTK one. Or what am I missing? > Which is why XInput 2 should stay on. GTK -- off. If the default, non-GTK, build supports XInput2, then why is it a problem to have the GTK build use XInput2 only as an opt-in feature?